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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 year ago (4 children)

While I like driving. I hate all the shit modern car manufacturers put in modern cars. Sure they're more efficient on fuel than older ones. But we should be able to have that without needing the car to be tracked and data collected, we have in the past.

I feel like all these driver aids are also making people worse at driving. They need to do less, so they pay attention less.

On top of that, can we ban touchscreens in cars? Physical buttons give physical feed back, you can feel for the button you want and press it without taking your eyes off the road. A touchscreen gives you none of that, and means you have to look away. It's somewhat mitigated when they put buttons on the steering wheel, but not all buttons can fit in that spot.

Sure some cars have google assistant, Siri or Alexa. But I actually get so frustrated when trying to tell my phone to navigate somewhere or just simply change the song. And that's just the phone! The amount of times I have to pull over because it glitches out, or just fails to interpret some or all of what I've just said (sure it's better than voice assistants used to be, but it still breaks regularly) is still too high. The amount of times I regularly tell it to do something, only to find it was still processing the activation voice command, and therefore was initialising the VA screen, and not listening to a word I said after the initial activation is infuriating.

I love technology, but the technology has no place in cars if it detracts or distracts from the act and safety of actually driving the car.

/Rant.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On top of that, can we ban touchscreens in cars? Physical buttons give physical feed back, you can feel for the button you want and press it without taking your eyes off the road. A touchscreen gives you none of that, and means you have to look away. It’s somewhat mitigated when they put buttons on the steering wheel, but not all buttons can fit in that spot.

That's, a damn good point.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Android Auto has a good interface for integrating its functions into a car touchscreen, but it's not controlling anything "important".

I agree that all the traditional car controls should be actual knobs and buttons. I rented a car once and they gave me a Tesla, and I couldn't stand how all the controls were behind its touchscreen. I never felt the need to buy a Tesla, but that one experience turned me off from them entirely.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The more I learn about Elon and how Teslas actually work, the more I feel justified in never falling for his hype train.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A touchscreen gives you none of that, and means you have to look away

That’s the reason why I don’t like listening to music on smart phones. Want to skip a track? Fish the phone out of your pocket, turn the screen back on, find the skip button, tap it, wait a second until the garbage app acknowledges that you’ve pressed it, turn off screen, put it back.

While on my 2000’s phone it’s just pressing one of the physical buttons.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Want to skip a track? Fish the phone out of your pocket, turn the screen back on, find the skip button, tap it, wait a second until the garbage app acknowledges that you’ve pressed it, turn off screen, put it back.

I had a HTC Touch Pro smartphone 15 years ago, and it had an optional headphone cable with buttons on it. You could use the buttons for pause/play, next track, and previous track, without having to get the phone out of your pocket.

I never really saw something like that again for wired headphones. I did sometimes see headphones with buttons on the headphones themselves, but often they just have play/pause.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Bluetooth earbuds today have this feature. Havent met any headphones that do this but it might have also been a gesture

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The cable for Android devices are standardized. The car could have that built in