Like the Romans used to drink from lead cups. Something like that.


(it appears that the moderator is removing any replies with which he disagrees. It might be a piefed issue. But all the removed replies are top level and upopular. Stranger coincidences have happened I suppose.)

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[–] 20 points 15 hours ago (17 children)

Consumption of animal meat has been done by humans for over 2 million years and there is nothing wrong with it.

I agree that intensive animal farming is bad and humans need to reduce their meat consumption to be more in harmony with nature but it’s not inherently bad.

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  • [–] 11 points 15 hours ago (9 children)

    done by humans for over 2 million years and there is nothing wrong with it

    The former does not imply the latter.

    Cooking is a great example - eating cooked food might be the defining feature that seperated homo from other primates, and yet all cooked food is much more carcinogenic than raw.

    Just because we literally evolved to do something and have been doing it for millions of years doesn't mean there are no drawbacks, or that it doing it won't kill us.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    The former does not imply the latter.

    it does. it doesnt conclusively prove it, but it is evidence toward it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children)

    the king is here, we can finally have it our way!

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  • [–] -3 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

    Just because we literally evolved to do something and have been doing it for millions of years doesn't mean there are no drawbacks

    Missed the part where I said no drawbacks.

    or that it doing it won't kill us.

    Missed this too, apparently.

    Are you making the argument that, in the future, eating meat will be determined to be unhealthy even though, as you put it, “we literally evolved to do” it?

    Or perhaps there’s nothing wrong with eating meat, in and of itself, but consumption at the current scale is unhealthy? In no small part due to the potential for advanced viruses and illnesses created by jamming a bunch of animals together in confined spaces .

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  • [–] 10 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

    To me "there is nothing wrong with it" implies there are no negatives, so no drawbacks, no chance it might kill us, etc.

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  • [–] -1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    Really? To you “there is nothing wrong with it" implies no negatives? None at all?

    Are you a Sith? Do you deal only in absolutes?

    If you were overhearing a conversation and person A tells person B, “sometimes I do 70 in a 65 zone to keep up with traffic”

    And person B says, “there’s nothing wrong with it”

    you’d have to chime in and let them know “exceeding the speed limit significantly increases the likelihood of a collision and the severity of injuries in an accident” because they just implied there are no negatives to speeding?

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  • [–] 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    I agree that intensive animal farming is bad and humans need to reduce their meat consumption to be more in harmony with nature but it’s not inherently bad.

    Well, YES IT IS.
    What were you, raised under a rock or something...?

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  • [–] 0 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    No, it’s not. Feel free to look up the definition of inherently and argue with the English language though.

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  • [–] -2 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

    your response is literally what this thread is about.

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  • [–] 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    So eating meat hasn’t been unhealthy for 2 million+ years but it will become unhealthy all of a sudden?

    Or maybe your trying to shoehorn your personal beliefs to fit the question.

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