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[+] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    No, don't be anti-education. Uneducated people make easy prey.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    in germany the apprenticeship system is very advanced and you can apprentice your way to a bachelor's equivalent with further study to a master's equivalent. that's how most trades work here. apprentices do part time studying at a trade school and part time working the trade over multiple years simultaneously, with exams issued by the school and for example a chamber of industry. it's very effective at turning students into effective workers, and if you find the right job you've got good prospects for a lifelong career, but obviously it does not teach you to doubt the system. of course there are also usually no "unnecessary" courses that would take away from an apprentice's focus. i think it's a decent balance, and you can always educate yourself on the state of the world in your free time.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Genuinely curious, what would a bachelors level or masters equivalent for a carpenter be?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago*

    with a master's in carpentry you can start your own carpentry business. as a bachelor you're only allowed to work in other people's businesses. to get there you'll have to pass wtitten and practical exams, for example building specific things to spec

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    That sounds really good. I didn't have as much of a good experience with a government program, which consisted of the company giving me one example, then sending me right off to work, without giving a fuck if their products turn out well, or if I learn anything.

    Still working here, still don't know most things, because asking gets you the low-skilled tasks.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    We can value education without commodifying it the way we've done. In my opinion, the current system rewards diploma mills and devalues education anyways.

    I think education should be both inexpensive and completely voluntary, so that the only 'reward' for going to school is the knowledge you leave with.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    No you create such a divide. Try learning with 3 jobs

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Well if we're imagining a better world anyways, why would anyone have three jobs?

    The current system creates luxury for some at the cost of creating poverty for others. I think the best course of action would be to stop doing that - then education could be about learning instead of about earning.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Actually, the research says to do that

    Promoting people into leadership positions based on past unrelated experience does not make better managers and leaders.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    Knock it all you want. This was done by Italian researchers, no affiliation with the U.S. government.

    Edit Here's the actual research paper It's pretty short actually

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Okay, we seem to be in a bit of a loop here. I'm going to go do something else with my time. Talking to you is a waste of time.

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