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[–] -1 points 9 hours ago (13 children)

If you don’t own a car, or can’t drive (at the moment) for some other reason, in a lot of suburbs in the US you literally don’t have a choice.

Counter point: these services are relatively new and the majority of people in these suburbs got along fine without exploiting that labor before. There are edge cases that this may benefit (meals on wheels type situations) but I'd argue it's still borderline immoral to use them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    Lol, no they fucking didn't. They'd beg people to go shopping for them, meaning they were literally reliant on other people's schedules to get food. Or like my grandmother, she'd call a cab both ways, wobble herself down the stairs to wait for it, spend two hours slowly working her half blind ass through each aisle to find the shit she needed, and then still be unable to carry more than ten pounds of groceries at a time. This is a miserable ordeal.

    Compare to my mother in law, in a similar position, her kids and grandchildren can just ship her food from anywhere with an app. She loves it. The drivers get tipped. We call her and she talks about what she got delivered. But sure, food delivery is "immoral" when you are sufficiently privileged I guess.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 hours ago (11 children)

    I prefer my grandma to use them over driving herself. This stuff arrived over the pandemic but its niche is permanent, not everyone using it is doing it out of laziness.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 hours ago (10 children)

    these services are relatively new and the majority of people in these suburbs got along fine without exploiting that labor before.

    There are edge cases that this may benefit (meals on wheels type situations) but I’d argue it’s still borderline immoral to use them.

    I prefer my grandma to use them over driving herself. This stuff arrived over the pandemic but its niche is permanent, not everyone using it is doing it out of laziness.

    I didn't say everyone was doing it out of laziness.

    I said the majority got along fine before.

    I said some portions of the pop'n benefit from it now.

    It's still exploitative and I believe borderline immoral. The gig economy is bad for the overall economy.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago (7 children)

    The entire system is exploitative, attacking grocery delivery isn't going to fix capitalism buddy.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    I am legitimately imagining this person pitching a fit because he got invited to a party and they want to order pizza. Or rather, I imagine them pretending like that's what they did later in the shower, because nobody actually acts like this in real life.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

    "Oh man, it won't fix capitalism? Guess I better keep my mouth shut then unless I can fix the entire thing."

    See how silly that sounds?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    "Oh boy I can strawman someone's argument online? Guess I better do it at every chance!"

    See how silly that sounds?

    To the actual point, you'd be much better off spending your time on the root issues instead of attacking a very small minority of the problem. That's my only point, food/grocery delivery is so low on the list of capitalism exploitation shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago (1 child)

    Took you 3 attempts to get that response out, eh?

    The actual point is that I can comment on any issue I want, and dismissing that comment because it doesn't solve what you believe to be an overarching problem is silly.

    You don't need to start from the top or the bottom. You can address any issue you want regardless of its perceived priority.

    Trying to silence someone from doing so is silly.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago

    It was the same response, just had a network issue.

    Don't care to continue this discussion honestly, keep demonizing gig workers and the people who use them all you want, just saying it's not actually going to help.

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