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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child)

I'm questioning the validity of this vote due to irregularities in the campaign and external interference I'd start an investigation if I were Germany.

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[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

I think you just don't want to face the reality of how much German society apologizes and makes space for white nationalism/fascism.

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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

I think..

Pease don't put words in my mouth. Don't be like the enemy if you wanna be friends.

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[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

shrugs why else do you immediately jump to election interference then?

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[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

Putler and his rapist ally Trump have been responsible for frauding their own elections

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[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca [S] 1 point 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Putler and his rapist ally Trump have been responsible for frauding their own elections

Right but the way that has occurred is well documented in both cases with Trump and Putin, what I am asking here is beyond indirect dark money funding of political groups in Germany (which is definitely wrong I am not defending it) what are the mechanisms of interference that are so grave as to make people question the results of the election?

What are the nature of these accusations? Actual faked votes? "Gerrymandering" style manipulation? Deregistration of valid voters?

I don't doubt that Putin would try to do this kind of thing, not for a second but also when I look at my own country... Putin didn't need to make Trump win, we did that all by ourselves, yes russia threw gasoline on the fire but focusing on that is missing the point of fact that we started the fire here all by ourselves.

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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

you immediately jump to election interference then?

Because there is and was,. Germany and other countries have been trying to cope with it for years. I just don't know the exact details.

So, now that you know that, why did you jump to your conclusions?

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[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Unless you have substantiated evidence to share that this election was tampered with please stop spreading potential misinformation about it.

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[–] Ooops@feddit.org -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 child)

while directly supporting the ongoing Palestinian Genocide

Thank you for bringing up a perfect example for insane desinformation: No, anti-air corvettes are not used to attack land-based targets but to defend against actual real attacks. No, submarines and torpedos are not air-dropped onto Palestinian civilians but against enemy navies (the famous Palestinian one included 😂). No, armored vests are not weapons used to club people to death.
How dows it feel to be an totally lost propaganda victim complaining about propaganda?

Also the far right is clearly in cahoots with russia

...and China... and the US... and every single one paying. Fascism is a way to continue the capitalist transfer of all money to the top while keeping the population diverted by imaginary enemies. So naturally fascists are deeply corrupt and willing to work for exactly everyone willing to pay.

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[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca [S] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child)

Oh so you still think the "only defensive weapons" line still works?

Pathetic.

You insult my intelligence by thinking this kind of shitty logic will work on me, you also insult this community by talking down to their intelligence with lazy arguments like this.

When a Genocide and War is occurring, if you give tools of war to the people perpetrating Genocide and War you are responsible for empowering their Genocide and War, whether the weapons are "defensive" or not is a laughable distraction from that basic reality.

Pertinently, in modern warfare the most crucial enablers for offensive action are air defenses and ballistic missile defenses, this is a basic consequence of combined arms warfare and it makes your framing absurd based on its first principles alone.

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[–] Ooops@feddit.org -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

whether the weapons are “defensive” or not is a laughable distraction

Then why do stupid propagandists and their brain-dead victims need to lie contantly about those imaginary weapons used on Palestinians?

The thing is I actually agree with you that Israel needs to get every single bit of support cut, followed by heavy sanctions... for a start, that is.

But that doesn't change the fact that idiots screaming lies about Germany's active support of a genocide and all their delivered weapons used to kill Palestinians are indeed idiots that undermine their cause by being propaganda victims you can easily debunk and then ignore.

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https://www.ecchr.eu/en/press-release/despite-international-warnings-germany-continuously-exported-billions-in-arms-to-israel-from-2023-to-2026/

[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 child)

Then why do stupid propagandists and their brain-dead victims need to lie contantly about those imaginary weapons used on Palestinians?

There are a couple of alarming things about your response here.

First, why are you so focused on being angry at the people you consider who are misinformed about something you have explicitly said is a target of propaganda? Even taking your argument at face value, you seem angriest at the symptom of misinformed people not the causes driving it, which I think reveals a lot about your character.

Second if you don't think Germany has been directly supporting Israel during the course of the Palestinian Genocide, you are simply misinformed and I urge you to take a step back and reconsider some of the things you may have dismissed said by others just because it clashed with how you thought things were.

Keep your damn eye on the ball, what matters is the Genocide stops not that you get to be righteously angry at people who you considered were fooled by misinformation/disinformation.

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[–] Ooops@feddit.org 1 point 50 minutes ago*

First, why are you so focused on being angry at the people

to quote you:

Pathetic

You insult my intelligence

this shitty logic

you insult this community

laughable

Stop projecting your insanity on others. Just because you start frothing at the mouth when people say things you don't like, others are not "angry" just because they tell you were to shove your bullshit.

And most importantly for you (although i'm absolutely sure your delusion will reject that sentiment, too): people are not disagreeing with your general sentiment just because they correct your desinformation. But they will absolutely then dismiss you as an idiot not worth discussing with, when you instantly start spouting insults.

That being said... /ignore