β² 39 βΌ German ministry mulls ramping up coal-fired plants to cut energy costs (dpa-international.com) submitted 15 hours ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/europe@feddit.org 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -28 points 12 hours ago (3 children) Germans went full retard for closing their clean nuclear energy plants. Absolutely foolish decision that's still biting them in the ass! permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child) They were old, the costs for the upkeep off the charts. No insurance company insures the damn things and they didn't provide that much power to begin with. We're doing pretty well in terms of wind an solar power though. If someone shoots the damn Nazis on their collective faces (yes, CxU included), then this trend will keep going and we're finally free from the corrupt oil/gas/coal cunts. Nuclear power is the dumbest shit that's being peddled by former Redditors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago You are in the top 5 for electric cost in the WORLD. Your industry is begging for relief as they go bankrupt, yet you keep defending idiot policies. Well more and more Germans lose their jobs you'll pass the point of no return. Loser policies cause loser businesses. Oh well we try to warn you but you all think you know better. It's simple economic supply and demand. CAPITALISM NOT SOCIALISM WORKS permalink fedilink source parent [β] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 10 hours ago* (2 children) Its really not biting anyone in the ass. We dont actually have any problems with our energy production, its just corrupt politicians inventing shit. Getting rid of nuclear has saved us many billions of euros in taxpayer money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Photonic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago Did you read the article? Or even the headline of the article you posted your comment to? Youβre firing up coal firing plants (while also paying way more for your energy than France). permalink fedilink source parent [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) News to me.. everything I read is that you guys are having an energy crisis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 10 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Welcome to post-factual reality where it's all about selling a narrative to people dumb enough to ignore actual facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 6 hours ago (2 children) GERMAN MINISTRY MULLS RAMPING UP COAL,-FIRED PLANTS - sounds like energy crisis to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs. So it's not at all surprising that a "We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically...] reduce costs"-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you. The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 57 minutes ago (1 child) You're not very smart, are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Had you posted the full headline you'd have seen that this is about cost cutting. There's no energy crisis here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago No shit. Nothing about a crisis in that statement though. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Don_alForno@feddit.org 8 points 9 hours ago Yeah, because those are ... looks it up ... far more expensive than even coal. That would totally help with energy costs. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child) They were old, the costs for the upkeep off the charts. No insurance company insures the damn things and they didn't provide that much power to begin with. We're doing pretty well in terms of wind an solar power though. If someone shoots the damn Nazis on their collective faces (yes, CxU included), then this trend will keep going and we're finally free from the corrupt oil/gas/coal cunts. Nuclear power is the dumbest shit that's being peddled by former Redditors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago You are in the top 5 for electric cost in the WORLD. Your industry is begging for relief as they go bankrupt, yet you keep defending idiot policies. Well more and more Germans lose their jobs you'll pass the point of no return. Loser policies cause loser businesses. Oh well we try to warn you but you all think you know better. It's simple economic supply and demand. CAPITALISM NOT SOCIALISM WORKS permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago You are in the top 5 for electric cost in the WORLD. Your industry is begging for relief as they go bankrupt, yet you keep defending idiot policies. Well more and more Germans lose their jobs you'll pass the point of no return. Loser policies cause loser businesses. Oh well we try to warn you but you all think you know better. It's simple economic supply and demand. CAPITALISM NOT SOCIALISM WORKS permalink fedilink source parent
[β] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 10 hours ago* (2 children) Its really not biting anyone in the ass. We dont actually have any problems with our energy production, its just corrupt politicians inventing shit. Getting rid of nuclear has saved us many billions of euros in taxpayer money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Photonic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago Did you read the article? Or even the headline of the article you posted your comment to? Youβre firing up coal firing plants (while also paying way more for your energy than France). permalink fedilink source parent [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) News to me.. everything I read is that you guys are having an energy crisis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 10 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Welcome to post-factual reality where it's all about selling a narrative to people dumb enough to ignore actual facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 6 hours ago (2 children) GERMAN MINISTRY MULLS RAMPING UP COAL,-FIRED PLANTS - sounds like energy crisis to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs. So it's not at all surprising that a "We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically...] reduce costs"-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you. The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 57 minutes ago (1 child) You're not very smart, are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Had you posted the full headline you'd have seen that this is about cost cutting. There's no energy crisis here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago No shit. Nothing about a crisis in that statement though. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Photonic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago Did you read the article? Or even the headline of the article you posted your comment to? Youβre firing up coal firing plants (while also paying way more for your energy than France). permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) News to me.. everything I read is that you guys are having an energy crisis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 10 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Welcome to post-factual reality where it's all about selling a narrative to people dumb enough to ignore actual facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 6 hours ago (2 children) GERMAN MINISTRY MULLS RAMPING UP COAL,-FIRED PLANTS - sounds like energy crisis to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs. So it's not at all surprising that a "We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically...] reduce costs"-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you. The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 57 minutes ago (1 child) You're not very smart, are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Had you posted the full headline you'd have seen that this is about cost cutting. There's no energy crisis here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago No shit. Nothing about a crisis in that statement though. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ooops@feddit.org 10 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Welcome to post-factual reality where it's all about selling a narrative to people dumb enough to ignore actual facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 6 hours ago (2 children) GERMAN MINISTRY MULLS RAMPING UP COAL,-FIRED PLANTS - sounds like energy crisis to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs. So it's not at all surprising that a "We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically...] reduce costs"-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you. The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 57 minutes ago (1 child) You're not very smart, are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Had you posted the full headline you'd have seen that this is about cost cutting. There's no energy crisis here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago No shit. Nothing about a crisis in that statement though. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 6 hours ago (2 children) GERMAN MINISTRY MULLS RAMPING UP COAL,-FIRED PLANTS - sounds like energy crisis to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs. So it's not at all surprising that a "We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically...] reduce costs"-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you. The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 57 minutes ago (1 child) You're not very smart, are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Had you posted the full headline you'd have seen that this is about cost cutting. There's no energy crisis here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago No shit. Nothing about a crisis in that statement though. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs. So it's not at all surprising that a "We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically...] reduce costs"-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you. The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 57 minutes ago (1 child) You're not very smart, are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 57 minutes ago (1 child) You're not very smart, are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 57 minutes ago (1 child) You're not very smart, are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 12 minutes ago Lol Germany's industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 point 56 minutes ago (1 child) You don't understand the electricity market at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 1 point 14 minutes ago I understand Germany is in the top 5 most expensive electricity. Your industry is suffering from it and is now less competitive. As you watch your companies go bankrupt, keep defending loser policies. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Had you posted the full headline you'd have seen that this is about cost cutting. There's no energy crisis here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago No shit. Nothing about a crisis in that statement though. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago No shit. Nothing about a crisis in that statement though. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago No shit. Nothing about a crisis in that statement though. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Don_alForno@feddit.org 8 points 9 hours ago Yeah, because those are ... looks it up ... far more expensive than even coal. That would totally help with energy costs. permalink fedilink source parent