β² 34 βΌ German ministry mulls ramping up coal-fired plants to cut energy costs (dpa-international.com) submitted 13 hours ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/europe@feddit.org 23 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -5 points 4 hours ago (2 children) GERMAN MINISTRY MULLS RAMPING UP COAL,-FIRED PLANTS - sounds like energy crisis to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs. So it's not at all surprising that a "We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically...] reduce costs"-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you. The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 43 minutes ago Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent [β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 child) Had you posted the full headline you'd have seen that this is about cost cutting. There's no energy crisis here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs. So it's not at all surprising that a "We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically...] reduce costs"-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you. The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 43 minutes ago Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don't actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 43 minutes ago Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago* (1 child) Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector Yes. like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity Yes You do not Oh, so that wasn't a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well... you donβt actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter! Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren't real, economic figures are wrong... and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis. Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes... in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment nowβ’. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany's total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because "who doesn't even understand how that magic is supposed to work" - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)... Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 43 minutes ago Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 43 minutes ago Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 child) Had you posted the full headline you'd have seen that this is about cost cutting. There's no energy crisis here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago Cost is correlated with supply permalink fedilink source parent