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i wasn't comparing stalins policies to other countries, people or the USA, i was commenting on 'stalin did nothing wrong'
i wasnt commenting on him not being a monster, i was commenting on 'stalin did nothing wrong'
i wasnt commenting on socialists or their policies, i was commenting on 'stalin did nothing wrong'
congratulations, you discovered the flaw in an extremely serious statement made on the internet which is in no way a meme meant almost entirely to agitate propagandized libs
enjoy this portrait I drew of you as an award:
i didnt figure it was until folks actually defended it seemingly completely genuinely
you can tell because "its true, generally good guy that made great strides for lgbtq folks" is actually also not an extremely serious statement
A whole bunch of people also said that Stalin 100% deserves criticism for failing queer folks.
The main reason why people rush to make a genuine defense of him - despite Hexbear's overwhelming support for LGBTQ+ folks - is because the default stance of the propagandized West is that Stalin is effectively synonymous with Hitler, and undermining that attitude is a crucial element of peeling back over a century of anti-communist propaganda.
i saw, im glad
i dont think framing him as a purely good person is an effective way to undermine propaganda, especially when i see some hexbears convinced that stalin actually did no wrong, or that his anti LGBTQ policies are just liberal lies
at that point it seems like the memes meant to undermine western propaganda are actually just propagandising folks in a different direction, instead of making them less susceptible to said propaganda
never actually accepting criticism of inhumane policies as being done in good faith when its the wrong people being criticised undermines the whole 'critical support' schpiel
i dont think socialists and fascists are totally just the same thing, i dont think leftists are actually all closeted homophobes or even half as likely to be as the right
i think that framing one guy who pushed extreme anti lgbtq policies as having done nothing wrong is unhealthy and disturbing, especially since ive seen several hexbears completely unaware of it his anti LGBTQ policies, or completely convinced that him having said policies was actually just a shitlib lie
Fair, and thanks for this followup. For what its worth, I do think that your critique comes from a genuine place. I also think there is a space for more casual (and opposite the normal) rhetoric without putting an asterisk for each and every flaw. I'm not fully onboard with the "did nothing wrong" stuff, but it's just trying to get a rise out of people and shouldn't be taken as a real argument. Worth interrogating if that is worth it for sure.
Yeah, I might do an effort post follow up to this megathread that provides some grounded criticism of him if I can find the time.
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I also just wanted to say I meant specifically when the narrative of stalin being a monster is disrupted (in the megathread, less so the specific comment). I should have been more clear.
i dont actually know which megathread this is about
Misspoke, my bad. Forgot that this post was a meme thread, was conflating it with something else