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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This criticism in this context never feels in good faith, it feels desperate and reaching for a way to conflate socialists and fascists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

never actually accepting criticism of inhumane policies as being done in good faith when its the wrong people being criticised undermines the whole 'critical support' schpiel

i dont think socialists and fascists are totally just the same thing, i dont think leftists are actually all closeted homophobes or even half as likely to be as the right

i think that framing one guy who pushed extreme anti lgbtq policies as having done nothing wrong is unhealthy and disturbing, especially since ive seen several hexbears completely unaware of it his anti LGBTQ policies, or completely convinced that him having said policies was actually just a shitlib lie

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fair, and thanks for this followup. For what its worth, I do think that your critique comes from a genuine place. I also think there is a space for more casual (and opposite the normal) rhetoric without putting an asterisk for each and every flaw. I'm not fully onboard with the "did nothing wrong" stuff, but it's just trying to get a rise out of people and shouldn't be taken as a real argument. Worth interrogating if that is worth it for sure.

i think that framing one guy who pushed extreme anti lgbtq policies as having done nothing wrong is unhealthy and disturbing, especially since ive seen several hexbears completely unaware of it his anti LGBTQ policies, or completely convinced that him having said policies was actually just a shitlib lie

Yeah, I might do an effort post follow up to this megathread that provides some grounded criticism of him if I can find the time.

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never actually accepting criticism of inhumane policies as being done in good faith when its the wrong people being criticised undermines the whole 'critical support' schpiel

I also just wanted to say I meant specifically when the narrative of stalin being a monster is disrupted (in the megathread, less so the specific comment). I should have been more clear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i dont actually know which megathread this is about

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Misspoke, my bad. Forgot that this post was a meme thread, was conflating it with something else