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[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 249 points 1 day ago (18 children) Know what doesn't refuse to pick you up if you're pished? The Night Bus. PUBLIC TRANSPORT WINS AGAIN! INVEST IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION! permalink fedilink source hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 11 hours ago Damn I wish. There are zero options but cars where I live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 child) assuming you have a public transit system that operates at night, and is worth a damn. I know there are places where buses stop running long before the bars close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago (1 child) Okay, maybe you should lobby your local government for better public transport? Because let's be honest with you, you can't have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. If the patrons of bars and clubs only have the option to drive to your location and drive back, they're either not going to drink as much as they would, not going to visit as often because they're going to have to drop stacks on a cab, or they're going to drink and drive. You can't have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. The only places that I can think of if I can get away with having no public transport and having some form of nightlife are wee villages, because you can walk home. If you want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport. If you don't want to invest in public transport, prepare to spend your nights drinking alone in your house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child) Thats on the base assumption that your local municipality wants a healthy nightlife. Which is a brave assumption to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago* (1 child) A city not wanting to have a healthy nightlife, to me, is a bit like a city not wanting to have shops: it's a royally stupid position to make. The nighttime economy is hella important to any city because it's a big money spinner. Here you have a load of people who either have finished work or have the weekend off and they're looking for shit to do that isn't staring at the TV drinking tinnies they bought on the way home from work and they wanna go out to bars with their friends, or to a restaurant, or a show. Those bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters and take outs make money and pay tax which the city can use for shit they need. Oh, and those Pubs? They can act as community nexuses, so there's a fucking social benefit too. The idea of a city having no nightlife is genuinely a dumber idea than when they turned cities into car centric hellholes, and that was a very dumb idea that most cities are struggling to deal with even now. Want to know how universal nightlife is? Cultures that don't drink have nightlife. Muslim countries have night markets and cafes because it's almost a universal thing that after work, at night, people wanna hang out and do things. Even before civilization we used to gather round fires to listen to stories and shit, that's how universal it is. I have been to villages with nightlife, several pubs where locals and visitors alike go to have a drink or maybe see live music. I have been to hamlets with a pub open until 11 where people go to vibe with a pint. Hell, even dormtowns I have been to have at least one watering hole. If your authorities are fighting against nightlife, then they are ultra-authoritarian asshats who hate money and human joy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I'm sorry that you are only now just learning that government can be stupid and myopic permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 12 points 20 hours ago BE PUNK IN DRUBLIC permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children) But public transport won't make a handful of people rich, so that's a non starter for many. And you might have to reckon with living in a society, with other kinds of people. You'd really ask someone to ride a bus with a {slur of your choice} just sitting there, like they're entitled to peace and dignity? In other words, conservatives are fuck heads who make the world worse for stupid reasons. Edit: fix autocorrect mistake permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 62 points 1 day ago (5 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago "This is the future the liberals want". What, a society where a Niqabi and a drag queen can share a train carriage? A world where two different people can share the same spaces? Oh the horror! permalink fedilink source parent [–] daggermoon@piefed.world 6 points 12 hours ago That's a pretty dopeass future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anise@awful.systems 39 points 1 day ago how is this not posted as straight satire? Why is every one of these images cooler than the last? permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yes, but also not a big fan of oppressive religious dress codes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 38 points 1 day ago (4 children) Good news: you don't have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago Nah liberals are people like Hakeem Jeffries. This is the future that actually free people want. (Also phone girl can get it) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] zewm@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children) Public transit stops at midnight where I live. Won’t work for someone out at 2am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) Last time we did the smart thing and we stayed till first train in the morning. Was also cheaper to drink till dawn and eat shit in McDonald's than take taxi home 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (5 children) In the U.S. there are only two places that serve alcohol 24/7 (New York and Las Vegas). Pretty much everywhere else stops serving at 2am permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) What if I told you lots of places don’t follow the rules permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 hours ago Well, sure, but how is that relavent? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago Truly a fascist country permalink fedilink source parent [–] chocrates@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) New Orleans is all night as far as I am aware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago I forgot about New Orleans! permalink fedilink source parent [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Big difference between serving alcohol and selling alcohol. When I was doing 3rd shift, we'd get out at 5AM, head straight for the gas station, and pour tallboys into paper cups and drink in front of the store. First bus home came by at 6:30. I was usually pretty buzzed by then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* Meanwhile in my country you can serve alcohol all night, but you can only sell it (to go) between 10 AM and 10 PM permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* and cop cars permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (12 replies)
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 11 hours ago Damn I wish. There are zero options but cars where I live. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 child) assuming you have a public transit system that operates at night, and is worth a damn. I know there are places where buses stop running long before the bars close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago (1 child) Okay, maybe you should lobby your local government for better public transport? Because let's be honest with you, you can't have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. If the patrons of bars and clubs only have the option to drive to your location and drive back, they're either not going to drink as much as they would, not going to visit as often because they're going to have to drop stacks on a cab, or they're going to drink and drive. You can't have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. The only places that I can think of if I can get away with having no public transport and having some form of nightlife are wee villages, because you can walk home. If you want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport. If you don't want to invest in public transport, prepare to spend your nights drinking alone in your house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child) Thats on the base assumption that your local municipality wants a healthy nightlife. Which is a brave assumption to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago* (1 child) A city not wanting to have a healthy nightlife, to me, is a bit like a city not wanting to have shops: it's a royally stupid position to make. The nighttime economy is hella important to any city because it's a big money spinner. Here you have a load of people who either have finished work or have the weekend off and they're looking for shit to do that isn't staring at the TV drinking tinnies they bought on the way home from work and they wanna go out to bars with their friends, or to a restaurant, or a show. Those bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters and take outs make money and pay tax which the city can use for shit they need. Oh, and those Pubs? They can act as community nexuses, so there's a fucking social benefit too. The idea of a city having no nightlife is genuinely a dumber idea than when they turned cities into car centric hellholes, and that was a very dumb idea that most cities are struggling to deal with even now. Want to know how universal nightlife is? Cultures that don't drink have nightlife. Muslim countries have night markets and cafes because it's almost a universal thing that after work, at night, people wanna hang out and do things. Even before civilization we used to gather round fires to listen to stories and shit, that's how universal it is. I have been to villages with nightlife, several pubs where locals and visitors alike go to have a drink or maybe see live music. I have been to hamlets with a pub open until 11 where people go to vibe with a pint. Hell, even dormtowns I have been to have at least one watering hole. If your authorities are fighting against nightlife, then they are ultra-authoritarian asshats who hate money and human joy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I'm sorry that you are only now just learning that government can be stupid and myopic permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago (1 child) Okay, maybe you should lobby your local government for better public transport? Because let's be honest with you, you can't have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. If the patrons of bars and clubs only have the option to drive to your location and drive back, they're either not going to drink as much as they would, not going to visit as often because they're going to have to drop stacks on a cab, or they're going to drink and drive. You can't have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. The only places that I can think of if I can get away with having no public transport and having some form of nightlife are wee villages, because you can walk home. If you want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport. If you don't want to invest in public transport, prepare to spend your nights drinking alone in your house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child) Thats on the base assumption that your local municipality wants a healthy nightlife. Which is a brave assumption to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago* (1 child) A city not wanting to have a healthy nightlife, to me, is a bit like a city not wanting to have shops: it's a royally stupid position to make. The nighttime economy is hella important to any city because it's a big money spinner. Here you have a load of people who either have finished work or have the weekend off and they're looking for shit to do that isn't staring at the TV drinking tinnies they bought on the way home from work and they wanna go out to bars with their friends, or to a restaurant, or a show. Those bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters and take outs make money and pay tax which the city can use for shit they need. Oh, and those Pubs? They can act as community nexuses, so there's a fucking social benefit too. The idea of a city having no nightlife is genuinely a dumber idea than when they turned cities into car centric hellholes, and that was a very dumb idea that most cities are struggling to deal with even now. Want to know how universal nightlife is? Cultures that don't drink have nightlife. Muslim countries have night markets and cafes because it's almost a universal thing that after work, at night, people wanna hang out and do things. Even before civilization we used to gather round fires to listen to stories and shit, that's how universal it is. I have been to villages with nightlife, several pubs where locals and visitors alike go to have a drink or maybe see live music. I have been to hamlets with a pub open until 11 where people go to vibe with a pint. Hell, even dormtowns I have been to have at least one watering hole. If your authorities are fighting against nightlife, then they are ultra-authoritarian asshats who hate money and human joy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I'm sorry that you are only now just learning that government can be stupid and myopic permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child) Thats on the base assumption that your local municipality wants a healthy nightlife. Which is a brave assumption to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago* (1 child) A city not wanting to have a healthy nightlife, to me, is a bit like a city not wanting to have shops: it's a royally stupid position to make. The nighttime economy is hella important to any city because it's a big money spinner. Here you have a load of people who either have finished work or have the weekend off and they're looking for shit to do that isn't staring at the TV drinking tinnies they bought on the way home from work and they wanna go out to bars with their friends, or to a restaurant, or a show. Those bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters and take outs make money and pay tax which the city can use for shit they need. Oh, and those Pubs? They can act as community nexuses, so there's a fucking social benefit too. The idea of a city having no nightlife is genuinely a dumber idea than when they turned cities into car centric hellholes, and that was a very dumb idea that most cities are struggling to deal with even now. Want to know how universal nightlife is? Cultures that don't drink have nightlife. Muslim countries have night markets and cafes because it's almost a universal thing that after work, at night, people wanna hang out and do things. Even before civilization we used to gather round fires to listen to stories and shit, that's how universal it is. I have been to villages with nightlife, several pubs where locals and visitors alike go to have a drink or maybe see live music. I have been to hamlets with a pub open until 11 where people go to vibe with a pint. Hell, even dormtowns I have been to have at least one watering hole. If your authorities are fighting against nightlife, then they are ultra-authoritarian asshats who hate money and human joy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I'm sorry that you are only now just learning that government can be stupid and myopic permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago* (1 child) A city not wanting to have a healthy nightlife, to me, is a bit like a city not wanting to have shops: it's a royally stupid position to make. The nighttime economy is hella important to any city because it's a big money spinner. Here you have a load of people who either have finished work or have the weekend off and they're looking for shit to do that isn't staring at the TV drinking tinnies they bought on the way home from work and they wanna go out to bars with their friends, or to a restaurant, or a show. Those bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters and take outs make money and pay tax which the city can use for shit they need. Oh, and those Pubs? They can act as community nexuses, so there's a fucking social benefit too. The idea of a city having no nightlife is genuinely a dumber idea than when they turned cities into car centric hellholes, and that was a very dumb idea that most cities are struggling to deal with even now. Want to know how universal nightlife is? Cultures that don't drink have nightlife. Muslim countries have night markets and cafes because it's almost a universal thing that after work, at night, people wanna hang out and do things. Even before civilization we used to gather round fires to listen to stories and shit, that's how universal it is. I have been to villages with nightlife, several pubs where locals and visitors alike go to have a drink or maybe see live music. I have been to hamlets with a pub open until 11 where people go to vibe with a pint. Hell, even dormtowns I have been to have at least one watering hole. If your authorities are fighting against nightlife, then they are ultra-authoritarian asshats who hate money and human joy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I'm sorry that you are only now just learning that government can be stupid and myopic permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago I'm sorry that you are only now just learning that government can be stupid and myopic permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jtrek@startrek.website 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children) But public transport won't make a handful of people rich, so that's a non starter for many. And you might have to reckon with living in a society, with other kinds of people. You'd really ask someone to ride a bus with a {slur of your choice} just sitting there, like they're entitled to peace and dignity? In other words, conservatives are fuck heads who make the world worse for stupid reasons. Edit: fix autocorrect mistake permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 62 points 1 day ago (5 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago "This is the future the liberals want". What, a society where a Niqabi and a drag queen can share a train carriage? A world where two different people can share the same spaces? Oh the horror! permalink fedilink source parent [–] daggermoon@piefed.world 6 points 12 hours ago That's a pretty dopeass future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anise@awful.systems 39 points 1 day ago how is this not posted as straight satire? Why is every one of these images cooler than the last? permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yes, but also not a big fan of oppressive religious dress codes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 38 points 1 day ago (4 children) Good news: you don't have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago Nah liberals are people like Hakeem Jeffries. This is the future that actually free people want. (Also phone girl can get it) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 62 points 1 day ago (5 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago "This is the future the liberals want". What, a society where a Niqabi and a drag queen can share a train carriage? A world where two different people can share the same spaces? Oh the horror! permalink fedilink source parent [–] daggermoon@piefed.world 6 points 12 hours ago That's a pretty dopeass future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anise@awful.systems 39 points 1 day ago how is this not posted as straight satire? Why is every one of these images cooler than the last? permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yes, but also not a big fan of oppressive religious dress codes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 38 points 1 day ago (4 children) Good news: you don't have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago Nah liberals are people like Hakeem Jeffries. This is the future that actually free people want. (Also phone girl can get it) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago "This is the future the liberals want". What, a society where a Niqabi and a drag queen can share a train carriage? A world where two different people can share the same spaces? Oh the horror! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 6 points 12 hours ago That's a pretty dopeass future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anise@awful.systems 39 points 1 day ago how is this not posted as straight satire? Why is every one of these images cooler than the last? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socsa@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yes, but also not a big fan of oppressive religious dress codes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 38 points 1 day ago (4 children) Good news: you don't have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 38 points 1 day ago (4 children) Good news: you don't have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago Nah liberals are people like Hakeem Jeffries. This is the future that actually free people want. (Also phone girl can get it) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zewm@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children) Public transit stops at midnight where I live. Won’t work for someone out at 2am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) Last time we did the smart thing and we stayed till first train in the morning. Was also cheaper to drink till dawn and eat shit in McDonald's than take taxi home 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (5 children) In the U.S. there are only two places that serve alcohol 24/7 (New York and Las Vegas). Pretty much everywhere else stops serving at 2am permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) What if I told you lots of places don’t follow the rules permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 hours ago Well, sure, but how is that relavent? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago Truly a fascist country permalink fedilink source parent [–] chocrates@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) New Orleans is all night as far as I am aware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago I forgot about New Orleans! permalink fedilink source parent [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Big difference between serving alcohol and selling alcohol. When I was doing 3rd shift, we'd get out at 5AM, head straight for the gas station, and pour tallboys into paper cups and drink in front of the store. First bus home came by at 6:30. I was usually pretty buzzed by then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* Meanwhile in my country you can serve alcohol all night, but you can only sell it (to go) between 10 AM and 10 PM permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) Last time we did the smart thing and we stayed till first train in the morning. Was also cheaper to drink till dawn and eat shit in McDonald's than take taxi home 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (5 children) In the U.S. there are only two places that serve alcohol 24/7 (New York and Las Vegas). Pretty much everywhere else stops serving at 2am permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) What if I told you lots of places don’t follow the rules permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 hours ago Well, sure, but how is that relavent? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago Truly a fascist country permalink fedilink source parent [–] chocrates@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) New Orleans is all night as far as I am aware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago I forgot about New Orleans! permalink fedilink source parent [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Big difference between serving alcohol and selling alcohol. When I was doing 3rd shift, we'd get out at 5AM, head straight for the gas station, and pour tallboys into paper cups and drink in front of the store. First bus home came by at 6:30. I was usually pretty buzzed by then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* Meanwhile in my country you can serve alcohol all night, but you can only sell it (to go) between 10 AM and 10 PM permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (5 children) In the U.S. there are only two places that serve alcohol 24/7 (New York and Las Vegas). Pretty much everywhere else stops serving at 2am permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) What if I told you lots of places don’t follow the rules permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 hours ago Well, sure, but how is that relavent? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago Truly a fascist country permalink fedilink source parent [–] chocrates@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) New Orleans is all night as far as I am aware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago I forgot about New Orleans! permalink fedilink source parent [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Big difference between serving alcohol and selling alcohol. When I was doing 3rd shift, we'd get out at 5AM, head straight for the gas station, and pour tallboys into paper cups and drink in front of the store. First bus home came by at 6:30. I was usually pretty buzzed by then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* Meanwhile in my country you can serve alcohol all night, but you can only sell it (to go) between 10 AM and 10 PM permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child) What if I told you lots of places don’t follow the rules permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 hours ago Well, sure, but how is that relavent? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 hours ago Well, sure, but how is that relavent? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago Truly a fascist country permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chocrates@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) New Orleans is all night as far as I am aware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago I forgot about New Orleans! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago I forgot about New Orleans! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Big difference between serving alcohol and selling alcohol. When I was doing 3rd shift, we'd get out at 5AM, head straight for the gas station, and pour tallboys into paper cups and drink in front of the store. First bus home came by at 6:30. I was usually pretty buzzed by then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* Meanwhile in my country you can serve alcohol all night, but you can only sell it (to go) between 10 AM and 10 PM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* Meanwhile in my country you can serve alcohol all night, but you can only sell it (to go) between 10 AM and 10 PM permalink fedilink source parent