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[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 61 points 22 hours ago (4 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] daggermoon@piefed.world 5 points 6 hours ago That's a pretty dopeass future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anise@awful.systems 38 points 22 hours ago how is this not posted as straight satire? Why is every one of these images cooler than the last? permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 22 points 22 hours ago (1 child) Yes, but also not a big fan of oppressive religious dress codes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 39 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Good news: you don't have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 21 hours ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 child) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago (1 child) The men forcing women to dress like this aren't using the law to force them. Laws forbidding dressing like this are, theoretically, to protect them from being forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago* The treatment for this is not to outlaw the dress codes, rather to provide services that help people get away from abusive partners. So the stuff that women have been fighting for since the late 20th century. Also the stuff white Christian nationalists want to eliminate: ~ DV Shelters ~ Property rights for women ~ Employment gender equity ~ No fault divorce ~ Crisis counseling permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 13 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 20 hours ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 point 19 hours ago I'm open to the probability that there are such women. But I can't imagine that they area anything but a sharp minority. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz -2 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Unfortunately the people that don't want to conform to the dress code of their religion get beheaded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 13 hours ago Not so much in liberal democracies. Sadly, the US is on its way toward becoming an autocratic religious state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago Or have their genitals mutilated permalink fedilink source parent [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago Nah liberals are people like Hakeem Jeffries. This is the future that actually free people want. (Also phone girl can get it) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 5 points 6 hours ago That's a pretty dopeass future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anise@awful.systems 38 points 22 hours ago how is this not posted as straight satire? Why is every one of these images cooler than the last? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socsa@piefed.social 22 points 22 hours ago (1 child) Yes, but also not a big fan of oppressive religious dress codes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 39 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Good news: you don't have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 21 hours ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 child) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago (1 child) The men forcing women to dress like this aren't using the law to force them. Laws forbidding dressing like this are, theoretically, to protect them from being forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago* The treatment for this is not to outlaw the dress codes, rather to provide services that help people get away from abusive partners. So the stuff that women have been fighting for since the late 20th century. Also the stuff white Christian nationalists want to eliminate: ~ DV Shelters ~ Property rights for women ~ Employment gender equity ~ No fault divorce ~ Crisis counseling permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 13 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 20 hours ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 point 19 hours ago I'm open to the probability that there are such women. But I can't imagine that they area anything but a sharp minority. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz -2 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Unfortunately the people that don't want to conform to the dress code of their religion get beheaded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 13 hours ago Not so much in liberal democracies. Sadly, the US is on its way toward becoming an autocratic religious state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago Or have their genitals mutilated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 39 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Good news: you don't have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 21 hours ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 child) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago (1 child) The men forcing women to dress like this aren't using the law to force them. Laws forbidding dressing like this are, theoretically, to protect them from being forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago* The treatment for this is not to outlaw the dress codes, rather to provide services that help people get away from abusive partners. So the stuff that women have been fighting for since the late 20th century. Also the stuff white Christian nationalists want to eliminate: ~ DV Shelters ~ Property rights for women ~ Employment gender equity ~ No fault divorce ~ Crisis counseling permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 13 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 20 hours ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 point 19 hours ago I'm open to the probability that there are such women. But I can't imagine that they area anything but a sharp minority. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz -2 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Unfortunately the people that don't want to conform to the dress code of their religion get beheaded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 13 hours ago Not so much in liberal democracies. Sadly, the US is on its way toward becoming an autocratic religious state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago Or have their genitals mutilated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 17 points 21 hours ago (7 children) What about the ones who don't want to, but are forced into it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 child) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago (1 child) The men forcing women to dress like this aren't using the law to force them. Laws forbidding dressing like this are, theoretically, to protect them from being forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago* The treatment for this is not to outlaw the dress codes, rather to provide services that help people get away from abusive partners. So the stuff that women have been fighting for since the late 20th century. Also the stuff white Christian nationalists want to eliminate: ~ DV Shelters ~ Property rights for women ~ Employment gender equity ~ No fault divorce ~ Crisis counseling permalink fedilink source parent [–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 point 13 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 20 hours ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 point 19 hours ago I'm open to the probability that there are such women. But I can't imagine that they area anything but a sharp minority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago We should obviously ensure it's safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you'd never see those cases because they're not visibly other from you in the same way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 child) That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations) You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago (1 child) The men forcing women to dress like this aren't using the law to force them. Laws forbidding dressing like this are, theoretically, to protect them from being forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago* The treatment for this is not to outlaw the dress codes, rather to provide services that help people get away from abusive partners. So the stuff that women have been fighting for since the late 20th century. Also the stuff white Christian nationalists want to eliminate: ~ DV Shelters ~ Property rights for women ~ Employment gender equity ~ No fault divorce ~ Crisis counseling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago (1 child) The men forcing women to dress like this aren't using the law to force them. Laws forbidding dressing like this are, theoretically, to protect them from being forced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago* The treatment for this is not to outlaw the dress codes, rather to provide services that help people get away from abusive partners. So the stuff that women have been fighting for since the late 20th century. Also the stuff white Christian nationalists want to eliminate: ~ DV Shelters ~ Property rights for women ~ Employment gender equity ~ No fault divorce ~ Crisis counseling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago* The treatment for this is not to outlaw the dress codes, rather to provide services that help people get away from abusive partners. So the stuff that women have been fighting for since the late 20th century. Also the stuff white Christian nationalists want to eliminate: ~ DV Shelters ~ Property rights for women ~ Employment gender equity ~ No fault divorce ~ Crisis counseling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children) The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it's fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don't think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 20 hours ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 point 19 hours ago I'm open to the probability that there are such women. But I can't imagine that they area anything but a sharp minority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don't want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It's an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 20 hours ago I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash. Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 point 19 hours ago I'm open to the probability that there are such women. But I can't imagine that they area anything but a sharp minority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] luthis@lemmy.nz -2 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Unfortunately the people that don't want to conform to the dress code of their religion get beheaded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 13 hours ago Not so much in liberal democracies. Sadly, the US is on its way toward becoming an autocratic religious state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago Or have their genitals mutilated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 13 hours ago Not so much in liberal democracies. Sadly, the US is on its way toward becoming an autocratic religious state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago Or have their genitals mutilated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago Nah liberals are people like Hakeem Jeffries. This is the future that actually free people want. (Also phone girl can get it) permalink fedilink source parent