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[–] 98 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The Earth can heal if we stop stabbing it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    If you could just snap your fingers and half the world's population would disappear would you?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Straight half? No. A select 3% a year for five years? Maybe. If you’ve seen any of the realistic critiques of the Thanos snap you know that doesn’t go well. Trimming down the fascists, oligarchs, nationalist, theocrats, tech barons, and similar greed and hate mongers should be enough without crashing everything.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    Well resource consumption wouldn't go down THAT much. Outside of private jets and the like, most shit is still consumed by people.

    Making it all illegal works, killing the people who make it possible for us does not because new ones will spring up.

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    Holy fuck why does Lemmy have so many ecofascists

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  • [–] 2 points 57 minutes ago (1 child)

    Where in the fuck do you get ecofascism from!? Do you even know what the word means.

    "Ecofascism is a political ideology that blends environmental protection with extreme racism, white supremacy, and violence against marginalized groups. "

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  • [–] -1 points 32 minutes ago (1 child)

    How about you do the bare minimum reading and take a look at the wikipedia page for ecofascism instead of presenting me with a dictionary definition of the word, which only highlights your obvious ignorance on this topic, and then get back to me when you're done.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child)

    Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. As the world currently exists, and under current economic systems, population growth is a pretty huge issue, especially while basically zero effort is being put into reducing carbon emissions globally.

    There was an article somewhere in these threatlds that gave a decent summary:

    The Earth cannot sustain the future human population, or even today's, without a major overhaul of socio-cultural practices for using land, water, energy, biodiversity, and other resources

    What a lot of people (myself included) struggle with is that the amount and significance of change needed to make an actual difference is huge right now, and it requires a concerted global effort to get anywhere close to halting what feels like an inexorable rise in earth's temperatures.

    Until we can change this then humans might as well be described as a virus and looking at forced population control (in this case of transport etc. under covid) and seeing a measurable improvement in our environment feels cathartic and, honestly, easier to obtain than the global overturning of capital.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

    Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive.

    Goes on to describe their definitionally ecofascist beliefs in detail

    Overpopulation is a myth started by nazis and eugenicists. People aren't viruses.

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  • [–] 1 point 54 minutes ago

    Yeah, you definitely don't know what that word means.

    Also, try telling the civilization of Easter Island overpopulation isn't a problem. Did you know the Middle East used to be a forest?

    No ecofascists here, but I am starting to suspect someone is an ecotard.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 hours ago

    Define ecofascism then, because its easy to just fuck around and shit on an opinion without providing an alternative.

    I'm not saying we need eugenics or a cull., and I'm certainly not blaming the global south for existing in a world that was driven by short sighted rich European capitalists.

    What I am saying is:

    1. Population is a problem provided the status quo doesn't change
    2. The status quo just ain't changing. Not fast enough, anyway.
    3. In light of this the current state of human existence (and the systems which support it) could be reasonably described as a virus. Exponential growth at the cost of a host? Prove me wrong.
    4. Solutions? Fucking sea change and a total shift in the way we occupy the planet. We're not over crowding we're over producing (and over consuming).

    What's eco-fascist about that, and if you don't agree, please let me know.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago

    Yeah, overpopulation is really easy to handle and doesn't require violence. Give kids a genuine education that they can continue into adulthood, and access to birth control and reproductive healthcare, and bam, population growth is fixed.

    The population problem is intentionally caused by the epstein class, so they can have abundant, desperate, cheap labor.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 day ago (20 children)

    If I could snap my fingers and all the world's billionaires disappear I would, or oil refineries. Not people though. Humans aren't the virus.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    Snap for all the cars to disappear!

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  • [–] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    No. People would starve to death. Cars are necessary. Not everyone lives in the CBD of the capital city.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    Cars are not inherently necessary. But we built around them and made them necessary. That can change. We control how we build and what assumptions we make.

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