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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 98 points 1 day ago (9 children) The Earth can heal if we stop stabbing it. permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago But it's fun giving the earth a frontal lobotomy, only so we can watch 30-second "AI" generated slop, causing our brains to become numb! permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago (10 children) If you could just snap your fingers and half the world's population would disappear would you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Straight half? No. A select 3% a year for five years? Maybe. If you’ve seen any of the realistic critiques of the Thanos snap you know that doesn’t go well. Trimming down the fascists, oligarchs, nationalist, theocrats, tech barons, and similar greed and hate mongers should be enough without crashing everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 1 point 26 minutes ago Yeah, Same here honestly. I wish permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago Well resource consumption wouldn't go down THAT much. Outside of private jets and the like, most shit is still consumed by people. Making it all illegal works, killing the people who make it possible for us does not because new ones will spring up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago We could just behave, we dont need to kill half of everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago I would probably get botox for my chin first and then think about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago Id just have the wealthiest die 5 billion times permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (3 children) Holy fuck why does Lemmy have so many ecofascists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago (1 child) Where in the fuck do you get ecofascism from!? Do you even know what the word means. "Ecofascism is a political ideology that blends environmental protection with extreme racism, white supremacy, and violence against marginalized groups. " permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world -1 points 32 minutes ago (1 child) How about you do the bare minimum reading and take a look at the wikipedia page for ecofascism instead of presenting me with a dictionary definition of the word, which only highlights your obvious ignorance on this topic, and then get back to me when you're done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago You are so fucking wrong it isn't funny. Please tell me your made up definition as you act like an ecotardburger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] huppakee@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago It's not like they are welcome in many other places permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. As the world currently exists, and under current economic systems, population growth is a pretty huge issue, especially while basically zero effort is being put into reducing carbon emissions globally. There was an article somewhere in these threatlds that gave a decent summary: The Earth cannot sustain the future human population, or even today's, without a major overhaul of socio-cultural practices for using land, water, energy, biodiversity, and other resources What a lot of people (myself included) struggle with is that the amount and significance of change needed to make an actual difference is huge right now, and it requires a concerted global effort to get anywhere close to halting what feels like an inexorable rise in earth's temperatures. Until we can change this then humans might as well be described as a virus and looking at forced population control (in this case of transport etc. under covid) and seeing a measurable improvement in our environment feels cathartic and, honestly, easier to obtain than the global overturning of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. Goes on to describe their definitionally ecofascist beliefs in detail Overpopulation is a myth started by nazis and eugenicists. People aren't viruses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 54 minutes ago Yeah, you definitely don't know what that word means. Also, try telling the civilization of Easter Island overpopulation isn't a problem. Did you know the Middle East used to be a forest? No ecofascists here, but I am starting to suspect someone is an ecotard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago Define ecofascism then, because its easy to just fuck around and shit on an opinion without providing an alternative. I'm not saying we need eugenics or a cull., and I'm certainly not blaming the global south for existing in a world that was driven by short sighted rich European capitalists. What I am saying is: Population is a problem provided the status quo doesn't change The status quo just ain't changing. Not fast enough, anyway. In light of this the current state of human existence (and the systems which support it) could be reasonably described as a virus. Exponential growth at the cost of a host? Prove me wrong. Solutions? Fucking sea change and a total shift in the way we occupy the planet. We're not over crowding we're over producing (and over consuming). What's eco-fascist about that, and if you don't agree, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago Yeah, overpopulation is really easy to handle and doesn't require violence. Give kids a genuine education that they can continue into adulthood, and access to birth control and reproductive healthcare, and bam, population growth is fixed. The population problem is intentionally caused by the epstein class, so they can have abundant, desperate, cheap labor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 50 points 1 day ago (20 children) If I could snap my fingers and all the world's billionaires disappear I would, or oil refineries. Not people though. Humans aren't the virus. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Snap for all the cars to disappear! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago (1 child) No. People would starve to death. Cars are necessary. Not everyone lives in the CBD of the capital city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cars are not inherently necessary. But we built around them and made them necessary. That can change. We control how we build and what assumptions we make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 hours ago Yep, cars are not necessary (esp what the vast majority does: one person in a car build for four or more). Public and freight transport would totally work. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (19 replies) [–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children) If I could snap my fingers and have people wake up from the capitalist propaganda they've been force-fed their whole lives, I would. Population is not the issue, it's a deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments load more comments (10 replies) [–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 child) I was on Thanos' side the entire time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago I felt like this watching Black Panther. The "bad" guy wanted to give Wakanda's weapons to the oppressed and downtrodden people of the world, and I was like "yeah, sounds good." permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (7 replies)
[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 1 point 1 hour ago But it's fun giving the earth a frontal lobotomy, only so we can watch 30-second "AI" generated slop, causing our brains to become numb! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago (10 children) If you could just snap your fingers and half the world's population would disappear would you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Straight half? No. A select 3% a year for five years? Maybe. If you’ve seen any of the realistic critiques of the Thanos snap you know that doesn’t go well. Trimming down the fascists, oligarchs, nationalist, theocrats, tech barons, and similar greed and hate mongers should be enough without crashing everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 1 point 26 minutes ago Yeah, Same here honestly. I wish permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago Well resource consumption wouldn't go down THAT much. Outside of private jets and the like, most shit is still consumed by people. Making it all illegal works, killing the people who make it possible for us does not because new ones will spring up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago We could just behave, we dont need to kill half of everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago I would probably get botox for my chin first and then think about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago Id just have the wealthiest die 5 billion times permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (3 children) Holy fuck why does Lemmy have so many ecofascists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago (1 child) Where in the fuck do you get ecofascism from!? Do you even know what the word means. "Ecofascism is a political ideology that blends environmental protection with extreme racism, white supremacy, and violence against marginalized groups. " permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world -1 points 32 minutes ago (1 child) How about you do the bare minimum reading and take a look at the wikipedia page for ecofascism instead of presenting me with a dictionary definition of the word, which only highlights your obvious ignorance on this topic, and then get back to me when you're done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago You are so fucking wrong it isn't funny. Please tell me your made up definition as you act like an ecotardburger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] huppakee@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago It's not like they are welcome in many other places permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. As the world currently exists, and under current economic systems, population growth is a pretty huge issue, especially while basically zero effort is being put into reducing carbon emissions globally. There was an article somewhere in these threatlds that gave a decent summary: The Earth cannot sustain the future human population, or even today's, without a major overhaul of socio-cultural practices for using land, water, energy, biodiversity, and other resources What a lot of people (myself included) struggle with is that the amount and significance of change needed to make an actual difference is huge right now, and it requires a concerted global effort to get anywhere close to halting what feels like an inexorable rise in earth's temperatures. Until we can change this then humans might as well be described as a virus and looking at forced population control (in this case of transport etc. under covid) and seeing a measurable improvement in our environment feels cathartic and, honestly, easier to obtain than the global overturning of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. Goes on to describe their definitionally ecofascist beliefs in detail Overpopulation is a myth started by nazis and eugenicists. People aren't viruses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 54 minutes ago Yeah, you definitely don't know what that word means. Also, try telling the civilization of Easter Island overpopulation isn't a problem. Did you know the Middle East used to be a forest? No ecofascists here, but I am starting to suspect someone is an ecotard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago Define ecofascism then, because its easy to just fuck around and shit on an opinion without providing an alternative. I'm not saying we need eugenics or a cull., and I'm certainly not blaming the global south for existing in a world that was driven by short sighted rich European capitalists. What I am saying is: Population is a problem provided the status quo doesn't change The status quo just ain't changing. Not fast enough, anyway. In light of this the current state of human existence (and the systems which support it) could be reasonably described as a virus. Exponential growth at the cost of a host? Prove me wrong. Solutions? Fucking sea change and a total shift in the way we occupy the planet. We're not over crowding we're over producing (and over consuming). What's eco-fascist about that, and if you don't agree, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago Yeah, overpopulation is really easy to handle and doesn't require violence. Give kids a genuine education that they can continue into adulthood, and access to birth control and reproductive healthcare, and bam, population growth is fixed. The population problem is intentionally caused by the epstein class, so they can have abundant, desperate, cheap labor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 50 points 1 day ago (20 children) If I could snap my fingers and all the world's billionaires disappear I would, or oil refineries. Not people though. Humans aren't the virus. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Snap for all the cars to disappear! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago (1 child) No. People would starve to death. Cars are necessary. Not everyone lives in the CBD of the capital city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cars are not inherently necessary. But we built around them and made them necessary. That can change. We control how we build and what assumptions we make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 hours ago Yep, cars are not necessary (esp what the vast majority does: one person in a car build for four or more). Public and freight transport would totally work. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (19 replies) [–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children) If I could snap my fingers and have people wake up from the capitalist propaganda they've been force-fed their whole lives, I would. Population is not the issue, it's a deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments load more comments (10 replies) [–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 child) I was on Thanos' side the entire time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago I felt like this watching Black Panther. The "bad" guy wanted to give Wakanda's weapons to the oppressed and downtrodden people of the world, and I was like "yeah, sounds good." permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Straight half? No. A select 3% a year for five years? Maybe. If you’ve seen any of the realistic critiques of the Thanos snap you know that doesn’t go well. Trimming down the fascists, oligarchs, nationalist, theocrats, tech barons, and similar greed and hate mongers should be enough without crashing everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 1 point 26 minutes ago Yeah, Same here honestly. I wish permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago Well resource consumption wouldn't go down THAT much. Outside of private jets and the like, most shit is still consumed by people. Making it all illegal works, killing the people who make it possible for us does not because new ones will spring up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 1 point 26 minutes ago Yeah, Same here honestly. I wish permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago Well resource consumption wouldn't go down THAT much. Outside of private jets and the like, most shit is still consumed by people. Making it all illegal works, killing the people who make it possible for us does not because new ones will spring up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago We could just behave, we dont need to kill half of everyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago I would probably get botox for my chin first and then think about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago Id just have the wealthiest die 5 billion times permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (3 children) Holy fuck why does Lemmy have so many ecofascists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago (1 child) Where in the fuck do you get ecofascism from!? Do you even know what the word means. "Ecofascism is a political ideology that blends environmental protection with extreme racism, white supremacy, and violence against marginalized groups. " permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world -1 points 32 minutes ago (1 child) How about you do the bare minimum reading and take a look at the wikipedia page for ecofascism instead of presenting me with a dictionary definition of the word, which only highlights your obvious ignorance on this topic, and then get back to me when you're done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago You are so fucking wrong it isn't funny. Please tell me your made up definition as you act like an ecotardburger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] huppakee@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago It's not like they are welcome in many other places permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. As the world currently exists, and under current economic systems, population growth is a pretty huge issue, especially while basically zero effort is being put into reducing carbon emissions globally. There was an article somewhere in these threatlds that gave a decent summary: The Earth cannot sustain the future human population, or even today's, without a major overhaul of socio-cultural practices for using land, water, energy, biodiversity, and other resources What a lot of people (myself included) struggle with is that the amount and significance of change needed to make an actual difference is huge right now, and it requires a concerted global effort to get anywhere close to halting what feels like an inexorable rise in earth's temperatures. Until we can change this then humans might as well be described as a virus and looking at forced population control (in this case of transport etc. under covid) and seeing a measurable improvement in our environment feels cathartic and, honestly, easier to obtain than the global overturning of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. Goes on to describe their definitionally ecofascist beliefs in detail Overpopulation is a myth started by nazis and eugenicists. People aren't viruses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 54 minutes ago Yeah, you definitely don't know what that word means. Also, try telling the civilization of Easter Island overpopulation isn't a problem. Did you know the Middle East used to be a forest? No ecofascists here, but I am starting to suspect someone is an ecotard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago Define ecofascism then, because its easy to just fuck around and shit on an opinion without providing an alternative. I'm not saying we need eugenics or a cull., and I'm certainly not blaming the global south for existing in a world that was driven by short sighted rich European capitalists. What I am saying is: Population is a problem provided the status quo doesn't change The status quo just ain't changing. Not fast enough, anyway. In light of this the current state of human existence (and the systems which support it) could be reasonably described as a virus. Exponential growth at the cost of a host? Prove me wrong. Solutions? Fucking sea change and a total shift in the way we occupy the planet. We're not over crowding we're over producing (and over consuming). What's eco-fascist about that, and if you don't agree, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago Yeah, overpopulation is really easy to handle and doesn't require violence. Give kids a genuine education that they can continue into adulthood, and access to birth control and reproductive healthcare, and bam, population growth is fixed. The population problem is intentionally caused by the epstein class, so they can have abundant, desperate, cheap labor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago (1 child) Where in the fuck do you get ecofascism from!? Do you even know what the word means. "Ecofascism is a political ideology that blends environmental protection with extreme racism, white supremacy, and violence against marginalized groups. " permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world -1 points 32 minutes ago (1 child) How about you do the bare minimum reading and take a look at the wikipedia page for ecofascism instead of presenting me with a dictionary definition of the word, which only highlights your obvious ignorance on this topic, and then get back to me when you're done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago You are so fucking wrong it isn't funny. Please tell me your made up definition as you act like an ecotardburger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world -1 points 32 minutes ago (1 child) How about you do the bare minimum reading and take a look at the wikipedia page for ecofascism instead of presenting me with a dictionary definition of the word, which only highlights your obvious ignorance on this topic, and then get back to me when you're done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago You are so fucking wrong it isn't funny. Please tell me your made up definition as you act like an ecotardburger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago You are so fucking wrong it isn't funny. Please tell me your made up definition as you act like an ecotardburger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago It's not like they are welcome in many other places permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. As the world currently exists, and under current economic systems, population growth is a pretty huge issue, especially while basically zero effort is being put into reducing carbon emissions globally. There was an article somewhere in these threatlds that gave a decent summary: The Earth cannot sustain the future human population, or even today's, without a major overhaul of socio-cultural practices for using land, water, energy, biodiversity, and other resources What a lot of people (myself included) struggle with is that the amount and significance of change needed to make an actual difference is huge right now, and it requires a concerted global effort to get anywhere close to halting what feels like an inexorable rise in earth's temperatures. Until we can change this then humans might as well be described as a virus and looking at forced population control (in this case of transport etc. under covid) and seeing a measurable improvement in our environment feels cathartic and, honestly, easier to obtain than the global overturning of capital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. Goes on to describe their definitionally ecofascist beliefs in detail Overpopulation is a myth started by nazis and eugenicists. People aren't viruses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 54 minutes ago Yeah, you definitely don't know what that word means. Also, try telling the civilization of Easter Island overpopulation isn't a problem. Did you know the Middle East used to be a forest? No ecofascists here, but I am starting to suspect someone is an ecotard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago Define ecofascism then, because its easy to just fuck around and shit on an opinion without providing an alternative. I'm not saying we need eugenics or a cull., and I'm certainly not blaming the global south for existing in a world that was driven by short sighted rich European capitalists. What I am saying is: Population is a problem provided the status quo doesn't change The status quo just ain't changing. Not fast enough, anyway. In light of this the current state of human existence (and the systems which support it) could be reasonably described as a virus. Exponential growth at the cost of a host? Prove me wrong. Solutions? Fucking sea change and a total shift in the way we occupy the planet. We're not over crowding we're over producing (and over consuming). What's eco-fascist about that, and if you don't agree, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago Yeah, overpopulation is really easy to handle and doesn't require violence. Give kids a genuine education that they can continue into adulthood, and access to birth control and reproductive healthcare, and bam, population growth is fixed. The population problem is intentionally caused by the epstein class, so they can have abundant, desperate, cheap labor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children) Resorting to calling people ecofascists feels pretty reductive. Goes on to describe their definitionally ecofascist beliefs in detail Overpopulation is a myth started by nazis and eugenicists. People aren't viruses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 54 minutes ago Yeah, you definitely don't know what that word means. Also, try telling the civilization of Easter Island overpopulation isn't a problem. Did you know the Middle East used to be a forest? No ecofascists here, but I am starting to suspect someone is an ecotard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago Define ecofascism then, because its easy to just fuck around and shit on an opinion without providing an alternative. I'm not saying we need eugenics or a cull., and I'm certainly not blaming the global south for existing in a world that was driven by short sighted rich European capitalists. What I am saying is: Population is a problem provided the status quo doesn't change The status quo just ain't changing. Not fast enough, anyway. In light of this the current state of human existence (and the systems which support it) could be reasonably described as a virus. Exponential growth at the cost of a host? Prove me wrong. Solutions? Fucking sea change and a total shift in the way we occupy the planet. We're not over crowding we're over producing (and over consuming). What's eco-fascist about that, and if you don't agree, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago Yeah, overpopulation is really easy to handle and doesn't require violence. Give kids a genuine education that they can continue into adulthood, and access to birth control and reproductive healthcare, and bam, population growth is fixed. The population problem is intentionally caused by the epstein class, so they can have abundant, desperate, cheap labor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 point 54 minutes ago Yeah, you definitely don't know what that word means. Also, try telling the civilization of Easter Island overpopulation isn't a problem. Did you know the Middle East used to be a forest? No ecofascists here, but I am starting to suspect someone is an ecotard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago Define ecofascism then, because its easy to just fuck around and shit on an opinion without providing an alternative. I'm not saying we need eugenics or a cull., and I'm certainly not blaming the global south for existing in a world that was driven by short sighted rich European capitalists. What I am saying is: Population is a problem provided the status quo doesn't change The status quo just ain't changing. Not fast enough, anyway. In light of this the current state of human existence (and the systems which support it) could be reasonably described as a virus. Exponential growth at the cost of a host? Prove me wrong. Solutions? Fucking sea change and a total shift in the way we occupy the planet. We're not over crowding we're over producing (and over consuming). What's eco-fascist about that, and if you don't agree, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago Yeah, overpopulation is really easy to handle and doesn't require violence. Give kids a genuine education that they can continue into adulthood, and access to birth control and reproductive healthcare, and bam, population growth is fixed. The population problem is intentionally caused by the epstein class, so they can have abundant, desperate, cheap labor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 50 points 1 day ago (20 children) If I could snap my fingers and all the world's billionaires disappear I would, or oil refineries. Not people though. Humans aren't the virus. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Snap for all the cars to disappear! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago (1 child) No. People would starve to death. Cars are necessary. Not everyone lives in the CBD of the capital city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cars are not inherently necessary. But we built around them and made them necessary. That can change. We control how we build and what assumptions we make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 hours ago Yep, cars are not necessary (esp what the vast majority does: one person in a car build for four or more). Public and freight transport would totally work. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (19 replies)
[–] jlow@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Snap for all the cars to disappear! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago (1 child) No. People would starve to death. Cars are necessary. Not everyone lives in the CBD of the capital city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cars are not inherently necessary. But we built around them and made them necessary. That can change. We control how we build and what assumptions we make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 hours ago Yep, cars are not necessary (esp what the vast majority does: one person in a car build for four or more). Public and freight transport would totally work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago (1 child) No. People would starve to death. Cars are necessary. Not everyone lives in the CBD of the capital city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cars are not inherently necessary. But we built around them and made them necessary. That can change. We control how we build and what assumptions we make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 hours ago Yep, cars are not necessary (esp what the vast majority does: one person in a car build for four or more). Public and freight transport would totally work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Cars are not inherently necessary. But we built around them and made them necessary. That can change. We control how we build and what assumptions we make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jlow@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 hours ago Yep, cars are not necessary (esp what the vast majority does: one person in a car build for four or more). Public and freight transport would totally work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jlow@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 hours ago Yep, cars are not necessary (esp what the vast majority does: one person in a car build for four or more). Public and freight transport would totally work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children) If I could snap my fingers and have people wake up from the capitalist propaganda they've been force-fed their whole lives, I would. Population is not the issue, it's a deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments load more comments (10 replies)
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 child) I was on Thanos' side the entire time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago I felt like this watching Black Panther. The "bad" guy wanted to give Wakanda's weapons to the oppressed and downtrodden people of the world, and I was like "yeah, sounds good." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago I felt like this watching Black Panther. The "bad" guy wanted to give Wakanda's weapons to the oppressed and downtrodden people of the world, and I was like "yeah, sounds good." permalink fedilink source parent