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I miss him (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 74 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

  1. He is one of the best presidents in US history.

  2. The orange Mongoose is one of the worst if not the worst.

  3. Obama bombed the ever loving shit out of the middle east.

  4. Obama deported more people from the US than Trump at the moment.

I would do almost anything to go back to the Obama era, seriously. But I don't want anyone thinking I believe Obama was some kind of saint. He wasn't. He simply did things better than Trump.

His immigration policy made more sense. He deported people who actually needed to be deported without resorting to modern-day concentration camps. He used military force in the Middle East, but generally for far more defensible reasons. He was a significantly better diplomat, and he certainly handled Iran better than Trump ever did, without throwing tantrums and shitting himself on national television.

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  • [–] 52 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

    What people really miss is not Obama. People miss competence, decency, and sanity.

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  • [–] 19 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 child)

    As a part of the famous Democratic circular firing squad, I was extremely critical of most of Obama's administration. But I voted for him twice, and I'd take him over Trump in a heartbeat.

    Edit: autocorrect-induced typo

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  • [–] 6 points 14 hours ago

    That's a difference between left and right. Conservatives value in-group loyalty more than truth or consistency. They fall in line. Feels good in their brain.

    This is an effective strategy, at least unless whatever objective reality they're rejecting catches up with them.

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  • [–] -2 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    people who actually needed to be deported

    Do you mean extradited?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 hours ago*

    No. Why would I mean extradited?

    He deported people who had illegally entered the country, people who were removable under U.S. immigration law because they had committed certain crimes in the United States, and, in some cases, people with criminal histories or warrants in other countries who were unlawfully present in the U.S.

    There may have been individual extradition cases during the Obama administration, but extradition is a separate legal process from deportation. It isn't really an immigration policy so much as a matter of international criminal justice and cooperation between governments.

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