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People miss the value of streaming music.
For films and TV, it's simple to get what you want when you want it. People dont watch films back to back on recommendations. But being able to have access to millions upon millions of songs and have them play randomly is something you cannot get with self-hosting easily. It's a great way to discover new music and there's a lot of value in that.
I'd only recommend self-hosting music if you literally only ever listen to the same 3 albums and are too stubborn to try new music. Or you are cheap!
Not true. I self host my music, which is what got me into homelabbing in the first place. I have 7 months+ playtime of music, and a pipeline for finding new recommended content with it. And i get the benefit of not having my music removed when license deals expire or never existed. And my random play actually randomizes instead of whatever profit optimized engine Spotify pretends to be "random" playing, so I actually hear new stuff. And I have playlists that can have more than 10k songs, but I dont even need those because I have smart playlists, including ones set up to only play things i havent ever listened to. I wouldnt ever go back
My best smart playlist I had in iTunes was the one that included the top 50 of all my music with 3 stars or more (one star was not music, two stars was music I would never listen to randomly, and anything above would be actual music rating), sorted by fewest plays. I would then put that playlist on random, so music I haven’t heard a lot, like newly added music, would be in heavy rotation in the start until the play count started to match my other music.
This comment makes absolutely zero sense.
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I will say it’s generally easier to find a movie than it is some music. But the music that’s harder to find is probably some hipster band on band camp. So you can just give them money almost directly.
Also I listen to a lot more songs in one day than watch movies.
This comment makes absolutely zero sense.
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This comment absolutely resonates with me. I selfhost Jellyfin but I am super happy with streaming via Tidal for this exact reason. It seems people consume media differently.
Actually, being able to listen to anything at any time has made me more distanced from music because I have stopped learning about artists and just used the Spotify "radio" of artists I knew from before Spotify.
After I cancelled Spotify I but buy stuff from Qobuz and Bandcamp, and I really consider before buying. Cheap self-published stuff I usually buy without thinking, but anything that has a label I only buy if I'm more sure about it.
I mostly buy albums which had also the advantage that I get to know an artist more deeply rather than just knowing their 5 most popular songs that appear in Spotify radios. Also, albums often have a theme or story that give them some personality that Spotify radios don't have. Arguably you can also listen to full albums on Spotify, but somehow I never ended up doing that.
Another advantage of at least Bandcamp is that you can filter artists by genre and country or region, which helps discover artists from cultural contexts you are interested in. That's one feature I love it for. Because this way I can find artists that I could actually see live one day, and I understand their music better because I know better where their perspective is coming from.
I am cheap, which is probably the motivating factor, but I think there is a real downside to infinitely available music.
Analogy: Attractive people dating online can have trouble starting a real relationship because they are always thinking, "Maybe I can do better."
I think it can be the same with music. If all you are asking yourself is, "Does this music immediately trigger pleasure in me?" you are ultimately chasing shallow high after shallow high. And once you are in that state of mind, you have an insatiable demmand for more music, music all the time, different music.
But there is a deeper experience you can have, when you listen to a CD for a week because it's in the CD player of your car and by the time you realize it, you're already on the highway and can't change it. You start to notice the little details, you start to appreciate the music even though it's not what you're into. And in doing so, you grow musically.
On the production side of it, I think there's also kind of a severe rot that might settle in when you're trying to chase people that will give you literally 3-seconds of their time before skipping, and that will change the music if they aren't constantly being pleasured or if they hear anything the slightest bit unfamiliar.
Since nobody has made an investment in the music, nobody is willing to give anything different a chance, and it just drives musicians away from making music and into making muzak, music that is just engaging enough, but never takes risks.
That seems like a very unique and specifically-you scenario. I don't think most people treat music as a competition like that, either on the consumption or creation sides.
Rick Beato is a good source for this. He's an experienced music producer, sound engineer, and musician who has been around for decades. When he's done shaking his fist at the clouds, he has has a lot of good commentary on the impacts of infinite, on-demmand music has had on the industry.
Funny how having a bunch of mp3 in your phone or mp3 player is now called self hosting.
I discover 2000 artists with no algorithm. I it is not that hard blogs exists, but I collaboration between artists exists, and warez website still exists with many obscure artists
I don't know about self hosting but many local players can generate playlists for you
Streaming is moving more and more to "access to millions upon millions of songs and have them play randomly is something you cannot get". Sure the streamlining library may have millions and millions of songs. However they do everything by a very limited playlist and so you get the same 50 songs.