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The historical risk of death isn't reflective of today's conditions, in both childbearing and war fighting/combat. And using them as an argument is not based in a reality that matters.
And yet if you'd bothered to look it up you'd see that the statistic is still 3x in favor of women dying in child birth vs people dying in conflict in the past two decades. 3X.
The mortality rate of people giving birth has been steadily dropping significantly for, well, basically all of recorded^1^ history.
And despite that, it is still much higher than people dying in warfare. It is weird how many people in this thread want so badly for this to only be "ancient history" that they just assume it is.
^1^ - data that is actively tracking this, not all recorded history bothered to keep accurate records for this obviously.
Also the fact that this is being used to justify a cosoom mentality.
What did you mean with cosoom?
I mean that the original post is referring to a corporate attempt to create yet another cultural obligation to buy more crap that people don't need. "Consoom" is often used as a variant of "consume" when people want to point out or ridicule our society's consumerism sickness.
You can give hand made gifts instead of store bought. Some people appreciate them even more because of the time invested.
Ahhh, you skipped the n and I expected a different meaning. Thought exactly that at first.
Yeah, the expenses before/after having a baby really add up. So many items to buy: high chair, baby dishes/spoons/bottles/cups, pacifiers, toys, rattles, teething trinkets, a wash tub, a crib, blankets, clothes, car seats, books, et cetera.
That's not even counting consumables such as diapers, wipes, formula, baby food, medicine, etc.
Or medical expenses, including maternity/pre-natal/post-natal care as well as regular check-ups for the baby and several rounds of vaccinations.
So if by "push presents" they mean things like that which any new parents are gonna need, or maybe something that makes maternity easier (since the brunt of childrearing so often falls upon the mother), then it could make sense. Like a housewarming gift, but for new parents. Although I'm pretty sure that's what baby showers are already for.
If it it's something that you bring her in the hospital to make her stay more comfortable, then that makes sense too.
I admit I've never heard of the concept before, so it could mean something like that. But if it's like "nooo buy her this expensive trinket that does nothing because society says you have to now" then that's just stupid consumerism.
Buying gifts like that can be nice, if it comes from the heart. Which it doesn't, if it's only being done out of a social obligation.
Gifts should be pleasant surprises. Not expectations that will result in disappointment if unfulfilled.
I got my wife a necklace with our daughters first initial on it, it wasn't very expensive