78
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2026
78 points (98.8% liked)
politics
30811 readers
2301 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
Abolish, and then literally re-form the agency from the ground up with transparency and oversight.
Dude fucking why? ICE didn't even exist before 2003. They don't need to exist now.
Yeah border patrol at least has a theoretical reason to exist, even if that purpose devolves to paper pushers but ICE is at best redundant. Really the entirety of the department of homeland security is fucking worthless and should be dissolved with maybe the twin exceptions of the coast guard and FEMA.
Yep, we already have immigration and customs. No need for low intelligence thugs.
I think the idea is to bring back the thing we had before 2003, INS, which definitely had its problems, but was a lot more like a bunch of IRS agents checking paperwork instead of the heavily armed and violent thing we've got with ICE
Yeah, not having immigration services isn't on the table, but I sure do prefer the idea that they're a bunch of bureaucrats without weapons
There was still immigration and customs enforcement going on before the agency named ICE existed with that name. Regardless of what you want to call it, there will be an agency doing those things after ICE is abolished. There is not a world where the US stops enforcing immigration and customs laws after ICE is gone. The best we can hope for is the current ICE goons get sent to prison and a new organization gets built from the ground up that is less shitty.
Why do we need armed agents of the state breaking up communities at all to enforce something that is classified as the same level of crime as jaywalking (a misdemeanor)?
I think we need border enforcement. We do not need armed thugs with little morality and oversight doing it.
Why have border enforcement? I'd rather return to the revolving door that used to be our border. It was easier, safer, and let to more money flowing in the economy.
Why is it better to break apart communities to enforce a misdemeanor charge if calm, dispassionate armed agents of the state do it?
A lot of things need to change and it won't be easy/overnight. I don't think CBP needs to be enforcing 200 miles from the borders, which covers almost every major populated area in the US. I think the path to citizenship needs to be a lot easier and faster. And I think misdemeanors should be enforced, but not with aggression, kidnapping, and imprisonment.
How would you go about disarming ICE?
I am not talking about the politics, I am talking about the logistics, how do you prevent these thugs from simply refusing to give up their weapons and facilities?
These are people who are loyal to Trump and his merry gang of dickheads, do you really think they will follow a presidential order by someone other than Trump?
It would be a federal organization disobeying direct orders, read them the insurrection act and send the national guard after them.
Most of the ice employees are spineless cowards who just want a little taste of power over someone. I don't imagine many of them are going to risk a federal charge for the cause.
And if they try to bunker down cut the water and power, siege them out.
Stop paying them would be a good first move. Stop supplying them would be a good second move.
How? Pretty sure it'd normally be illegal for them to keep government equipment, but if not, make it so. Then arrest them if the keep it. This isn't hard.
We need a Justice Department that would be willing and able to enforce it. Which may be some time from now unless something else happens from the citizens side.