▲ 656 ▼ Sean (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 weeks ago by Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) the original Italian is parmigiano, so a soft g/j sound is actually more accurate than a s/z sound permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) Yes on the first point - it's closer to how the Italians pronounce it. But Parmigiano and Parmesan are not the same word. The English word "Parmesan" comes from the French word "Parmesan", which is pronounced, you guessed it, with a s/z sound. The soft g/j is not more accurate, because it's a different word. It's an over-correction. FWIW, the word was in English nearly a whole century before the first British colony in America. It really is a word that existed and folk in America changed the pronunciation of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] scbasteve@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I wonder if it came from all the italian immigrants that came over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) All the southern Italians. I point this out because standard Italian settled on a northern dialect as the standard. So the Italian those immigrants brought has some differences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago gabagool permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago In our defense, Italians kept coming here and eating Parmesan. It makes sense we'd pronounce it closer to the Italian permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago Parmezany! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) Yes on the first point - it's closer to how the Italians pronounce it. But Parmigiano and Parmesan are not the same word. The English word "Parmesan" comes from the French word "Parmesan", which is pronounced, you guessed it, with a s/z sound. The soft g/j is not more accurate, because it's a different word. It's an over-correction. FWIW, the word was in English nearly a whole century before the first British colony in America. It really is a word that existed and folk in America changed the pronunciation of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] scbasteve@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I wonder if it came from all the italian immigrants that came over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) All the southern Italians. I point this out because standard Italian settled on a northern dialect as the standard. So the Italian those immigrants brought has some differences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago gabagool permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago In our defense, Italians kept coming here and eating Parmesan. It makes sense we'd pronounce it closer to the Italian permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago Parmezany! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scbasteve@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I wonder if it came from all the italian immigrants that came over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) All the southern Italians. I point this out because standard Italian settled on a northern dialect as the standard. So the Italian those immigrants brought has some differences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago gabagool permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HobbitFoot 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) All the southern Italians. I point this out because standard Italian settled on a northern dialect as the standard. So the Italian those immigrants brought has some differences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago gabagool permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago In our defense, Italians kept coming here and eating Parmesan. It makes sense we'd pronounce it closer to the Italian permalink fedilink source parent