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I wish moderate libs would understand that the demsocs are helping to move the Overton window further left, which is a good thing because it's moved way too far to the right due to the ratchet effect. I mean, Jesus, do libs not know how to negotiate? You know compromise will be necessary, so start left of the position you want to end up at. You start at democratic socialism but you end up at a relatively modest, European style social democracy. If that's too far left for you, well, you might as well just cut the crap and join the Republican party now.
2020s Democrats are mostly 1980s Republicans that are more okay with diversity.
*certain diversity
The second half of this statement is debatable
As someone who lived in the 80s, it isn't debatable. A gay person outside of highly liberal cities, had to hide being gay or they were at a severe disadvantage. That is now true in much fewer locations.
EEU social democracy is dying quickly too. It did not work. There is no left. Ever since the Reagan and the fall of the USSR and the "third way", the so called left does not believe in anything any more. Only power for themselves and taking certain positions to get elected.
History is full of examples of democratic socialists getting slaughtered, literally. The US is responsible for much of it. The plutocrats are definitely going to try to kill them or put them in camps.
Left is incompatible with capitalism
Everything decent is incompatible with capitalism.
The party is lead by people who would be Republicans if they happened to live in a red state. They don't actually believe in anything. They just seek power. People like this become Republicans in red states and Democrats in blue states. Centrist wafflers in purple states.
Does it make more sense if you view the Democratic Party as controlled opposition?
Why would moderate libs car about "going left." They want to support the "just world" they grew up in and ensure they are never made uncomfortable.