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[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

So, Pikachu, what methods work and need to be used?

Or are we not allowed to discuss that anywhere because they violate the ToS of every platform people could use to discuss and possibly plan the use of such methods since those platforms are owned and controlled by the folks in control or afraid of legal action by said folks?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago

I'd suggest counter-economics, unions, mutual aid, generally just a bunch of direct action.

I'm all for eating the rich too, but we won't get there just by wishing really hard. We have to show people how a better world can be built. You're doing it because you want things to change, most people who cooperate will just want to improve their financial situation.

Are we even particularly censored here? Luigi Mangione

[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Sort of but not really. You typically get away with things like saying you think we should all get together with torches and pitchforks and purify the global .1% with fire and then utilize all of their assets for public good on Lemmy, but the ToS says:

"We do not tolerate serious threats or calls for violence."

Since most of the time things like that get said they're said in a way that could be called hyperbole or a joke they generally get ignored, but if I started trying to get us organized and collecting wood and pitchforks and planning dates and locations and listing names of the folks we should definitely make sure we don't miss burning to death then someone will start stomping on it.

Rhetoric and grandstanding is fine, but actually doing anything about all the fraud and child rape and fascism is highly frowned upon.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we'd need some sort of coordination mechanism to do the pitchforks in unison. Even if you weren't censored, it'd probably end up like the storming of Area 51. Whatever mechanism can survive the capitalist assault will probably end up handling a lot of peacetime functions afterwards.

Federation slightly reduces censorship, but it's still there. And even if the server wasn't compromised, half of the participants would be feds. We don't have a systemic solution yet, just a place where we can talk about one.

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