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The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 14 points 21 hours ago

Need ideas for ways to spend philanthropy money without helping absolutely anyone? Check out AI safety influencer bootcamp at Lighthaven!

Basically Aella gathered like 60 people with a seminotable online presence to stay for free at Lighthaven for a month as long as they managed to publish at least one relevant video (15 sec minimum) each day.

Rationalism ensued:

“It’s really hard to run a fellowship that’s not an indoctrination camp,” [cofounder with aella] Fernandez said. “If you don’t try really hard to not make an indoctrination camp, you will on accident.”

Uh oh

A fellow recognized me and asked whether I was there for the “torture potluck.” I had no idea what he was talking about.

It was exactly what it sounds like: an all-you-can-tolerate buffet of unpleasant experiences, for the sake of Fucking Around and Finding Out. [...] Just before midnight, a small crowd gathered around someone laid down on an AstroTurf-lined wheelchair ramp. He was the first of shockingly many in line to get waterboarded — one of the most in-demand items on the torture menu.

So silly omg

After a string of expected questions such as “What’s your take on AI?” and “What kind of content would you want to make?”, the form asked, “If you had to have sex with a cow would you rather it be dead or alive? Why?” All Comic Sans, with animated rainbow dots floating alongside the form field. [...] [Fernandez said] “We added it in to make it pretty clear that we don’t have a PR department or an HR department,” he said.

“Even the icebreakers, like everything, they want you to know that they’re part of the weird community,” one fellow told me. “‘Stand over here if you’re super sexually active, and over here if not,’ or like, ‘rate yourself based off of like, the last time you masturbated.’”

The unifying thread, despite the fellows’ ideological diversity, is something like “openness.” Everyone at PDKU was willing to drop everything, move to Berkeley for a month, live in close quarters with strangers, and be perceived doing silly things on the internet.

It's really unclear what sort of ideological diversity is referenced unless it's about having both blue haired and green goatee'd people. Maybe we've reached the point where everyone is expected to assume race science enthusiasts will be at a rationalist event at some capacity.

Also the whole thing sounds like having tryouts for a cult.

[Fernandez] says PDKU has a conduct policy, authored by him, that discourages relationships across power differentials. When I asked him how that gets enforced, in the absence of an HR department, he mentioned an unnamed community health lead.

Same with the diversity thing, they are preemptively saying that there for sure weren't no sexual harassment shenanigans this time.

The third methinks thou dost protest too much comes as an extened NO U jab at other shady thinktankers trying to astroturf support for their thing.

Amid the science communication, shitposting, and heartwarming summer camp energy, there’s a giant elephant in the room. “It’s another multi-million-dollar thing happening on a compound in California,” CJ said. “Does everyone think you’re just an annoying cunty psyop?”

Don't believe your lying eyes is apparently the note on which they chose to end this.

[-] ivyastrix@awful.systems 8 points 14 hours ago

The waterboarding thing was introduced by Vibecamp's head of safety at other events, and a lot of the pdku programming seems to be in the area of light bdsm / boundary pushing. imo they work from some base general formula and try and differentiate / create intake funnels for other events.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 3 points 3 hours ago

Introduced by the head of safety (!)

At least they accept the principle that "relationships across a power differential" can put the weaker party in a difficult position. They don't have a rule against this, or a requirement to disclose, but they accept the principle.

The fact that it's referred to as a potluck is also interesting because it suggests that participants also had to come up with their own torture method to inflict. I imagine "spend twenty minutes with the sort of person who participates in a torture potluck" was the equivalent of potato salad.

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 13 hours ago

It all comes across as Synanon-lite, doesn't it?

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 17 hours ago

"Cult tryouts" is a keeper

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 21 hours ago

the weird community,

Are you part of the 'regularly needs to answer questions about rape/pedophilia/bestiality' weird community or the 'knows too much about warhammer' weird community?

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 6 points 18 hours ago

I can't stand the idea that the Anthropic IPO could end up funding these people to the tune of millions of dollars.

Please, AI bubble, pop sooner.

[-] lurker@awful.systems 6 points 19 hours ago

“If you had to have sex with a cow would you rather it be dead or alive? Why?” All Comic Sans, with animated rainbow dots floating alongside the form field. […] [Fernandez said] “We added it in to make it pretty clear that we don’t have a PR department or an HR department,” he said.

Weird flex but ok

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 7 points 13 hours ago

We added it to make it clear that if you get harassed by the people who control whether you get your stipend you are on your own, so please don't make it a big deal when it happens, ok? That just how it goes in these quirky and fun safe spaces that require you to move into a compound in a different city for extended lengths of time.

[-] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 5 points 18 hours ago

Anyone who doubts that authenticity is dead should reference this paragraph.

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Fascism is all about surface-level appearences and vibes. I didn't expect them to appropriate the mantle of "spork-wielding penguin of d00m," though.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Previous thread on plzdontkillus https://awful.systems/post/8359862 I wonder whether it is Aella or Duleba who is forcing some basic harm-reduction policies (but no enforcement, whereas you can be kicked out if you don't post fast enough).

Ziz reported being asked similar icebreaker questions.

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Ziz reported being asked similar icebreaker questions.

The reddit post from /r/Grimes you linked there has its issues but it does a great job putting into words the parts that bother me with both the cow-fucking questions and the forced "openness" that requires people to always be ready to answer for the normally intimate parts of their personalities and how it's comparable to grooming.

The reddit post is incredibly long winded so if anyone is interested in this part specifically ctrl+f for compliance filter.

Also super yikes on the Aella tweet advertising her alleged "cam sister"s onlyfans that's opening in a few weeks when she turns 18, which sounds exactly like if she had actually groomed a minor into sex work.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 2 points 34 minutes ago

It would be good if someone could take the r/Grimes post, boil out the chatbot overwriting, verbosity, and hallucinations, and give a concise version. An environment where you are pushed to make intimate sexual confessions in front of people who decide whether to give you resources, especially if those statements are recorded like anything you post on the Internet is recorded, is a red flag.

A lot of people in the sex trade discourage people who are barely legal from face-out work because young people don't know themselves or the world of work very well and a porn video can follow you around for life.

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