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Was talking to this woman on tinder. She told me she was vegan, and I instantly stopped caring about meeting her.
Like, it's just performative bullshit. And it's hypocritical. The only reason you can even BE vegan, is because society has advanced to the stage that there is enough varied vegan foodstuffs available that you can passable survive off it. But that doesn't mean it's all simple, like grains and veggies. No, half the time they're eating this super specialized, water-intensive crops and laboratory grown shit with energy-intensive production cycles that actively harm the environment. It's not some ultra-enlightened approach to living, it's just a thin veneer of ethical consumption based entirely upon other heavily industrialized processes.
It's bullshit. and you're better off just eating mostly vegetarian, with meat being a special occasion thing, like it's been for the majority of our species time on this earth.
High quality ragebait. The amount of prejudice, strawman arguments and false accusations is astounding.
oh dang, if my observations were so easy to disprove, you'd think you would do it ๐ค
Nah cuz how can it make you this mad ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
mad? I just think vegans are fanatical and full of themselves? Kinda like sidewalk preachers... like, they could be preaching just love and the new testament teachings of jesus but... they're still assholes.
I mean what are you expecting its about not exploiting animals so obviously they want to see the world burn
I mean... you're not wrong, but I wouldn't quite say it like that.
I've dated a girl who was very much into it, though she wasn't a full vegan, just a fairly strict vegetarian, for the same reason you mentioned (i.e. some of their meat replacement products just being ultra high processed food science experiments), and the fact that you can easily eat vegan without eating health (French fries are technically vegan as long as they're fried in veggie oil).
I'd basically consider it a nerd hobby at this point โ I've had some very impressive vegan stunt food, like vegan McMuffins that tasted better than the ones from McDonald's (albeit at 3x the price of course), so I can certainly can't hate on their dedication to the cause, because that takes a lot of passion.
But yeah, from a practical point of view, most people are likely better off with your recommendation, because it'll get you at least 90% of the way there without costing you half of your income, and it'll probably still achieve most goals that vegans are after (better health, less pollution, and improved animal welfare).
And yeah, I get it, it can be quite annoying when you run into a fanatic vegan and they can't stop chewing your ear off about the supposedly unlimited benefits, but it really isn't much different than running into a hardcore Trekkie, a conservative Christian, or your average anime fan. Veganism is basically almost a religion, and some people tend to take a bit too far, but you know what? It could be worse, because at least they're not going to eat you, because that would definitely not be vegan.