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The stanning of Rome will continue until morale improves hillgasm

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[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ehhh I think that argument is weak. For one, the adoption of Christianity as the state religion happens a good deal before the collapse of the WRE. Second, the underlying issues that cause the collapse don’t have much to do with Christianity (the empire outgrowing its administrative capacity, reliance on conquered peoples for the military, power games in the capital, constant juggling of where the troops are stationed) and many of them were present before Christianity got adopted. Third, and perhaps most critical, the East doesn’t collapse and continues to function under Christianity and, later and farther east, Islam.

Not to mention that the “dark” in dark ages refers to the relative lack of written records in the West in the era compared to late antiquity before it and high medieval/renaissance after it. Most of those records being written by bishops, so said records are skewed towards a religious viewpoint.

[-] CHOPSTEEQ@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

All good points. We spent a good part of our class time examining Christianity’s importance in the medieval history courses I took in college. Like you said, the eastern empire chugged right along no problem. There were plenty of more convincing factors than some emperors deciding to worship a corpse.

I only made that original comment because I’m watching Vikings slop right now, and it’s interesting to consider the illiterate saxons and franks being completely ignorant of who had built the walls they lived within.

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