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This virtue signaling needs to stop. Yes, the implications for AI are extremely dangerous and foolhardly. Taking out the pitchforks on Brian, an extremely talented and well regarded engineer in the FOSS world, is completely missing the point. It's akin to blaming drivers of gas vehicles for global warming. The impetus for change are on the systems that put these things in place, not a FOSS dev building a WM. The incentive structure of limitless growth at all costs in the IT sector and the unfettered power projection of capital are to blame here. Until you're willing to do something to stand up to that, then we're all just waving our dicks in the wind here. Posting is not praxis.
We get it, you correctly arrived at the conclusion AI is bad. Welcome to the club. Brian Tarricone is a professional and I have no reservations of the quality of this code. You might as well boycott the linux kernel because guess what, AI generated code is in there too.
Nah, fuck Brian. He's an AI using twat. No care for the environment, people, or IP that's been stolen.
This AI apologizing needs to stop. Yes, the implications for AI are dangerous and foolhardy. Full stop.
You created an account a few minutes ago just to say individuals shouldn't bear any responsibility whatsoever, and worse, that advocating for reducing the problem in a meaningful way is virtue signalling?
Your comment just so happened to grasp my attention. There's simply no need to resort to ad hominem.
Is the BP oil spill my fault because I drive a car to work?
All of us can try to take steps to reduce our fossil fuel use, either by trying to drive less, using public transport if available, or using an e-bike if viable. Individually the contribution is small, but collectively it can add up to help reduce demand, thus reducing the financial incentive to invest in oil or drill for more.
Of course we can, but that's not how history works. People do what they will do based on their conditioning and material conditions. Of course not always, but enough where we can derive conclusions. Shaming and finger wagging isn't going to fix this problem. If you think one sliver of the population of Earth gives one single solitary fuck about reducing their carbon footprint, I have a bridge to sell you.
Look, I respect you and your take, I'm not trying to be an asshole. I just genuinely don't think your approach is a viable method of achieving what you're saying.
History has shown that it does, in fact, work like that.
I can tell when I'm not welcome. I'll see myself out.
Have a good day.
Where is the ad hominem? If you're going to pretend to speak Latin, at least know what the fucking words mean, you absolute potato.
And in case it wasn't clear, that was an example of ad hominem.
The above commenter was calling into question my character because I had just created my account today. The definition of ad hominem I'm familar with:
"Attacking a person's character or motivations rather than a position or argument."
The commenter seems to imply that because I created my account recently, that my argument is therefore somehow not valid. I would consider that the be an attack on my character or motivation, rather than addressing my position. Would you agree or no? May have been a bit of an editorial stretch on my part, but it certainly doesn't call for you actually calling me names and insulting me. I'm just here for some banter. Your comment is obviously malicious, and I think you're better than that.
Edit: yep, downvote and move on. Exactly what I thought. Classic potato behavior.
Classic "it doesn't affect me" (yet), so it's fine. Maybe you'll change your tune when you run out of drinkable water because data centers are pumping it on top of climate change.
How on Earth could you derive "I don't give a shit" from "stand up to systems of oppression, don't castigate individuals"? Do your eyes even work?
This type of name and shaming just doesn't scale. You can't recycle your way out of climate change. This type of thinking places the responsibility on the individual, who by very nature is powerless and who's individual actions have essentially no effect on outcome.
These types of sentiments don't scale well into change, but it certainly allows the person making the post to feel good and to let others know they think the right things.
Refusing to use the tools that profit the very thing we want to stop is part of standing up to it, how is that not obvious?
We're not talking about you, you can do whatever you want. I'm talking about publicly naming and shaming developers for using what is now a widely accepted tool.
Creating a callout post isn't standing up to anything, it's just noise. You get special internet points for it, but it doesn't mean anything and again, diverts responsibility from the people who built this fucking Torment Nexus in the first place.
The developer made this public post of their own volition, presumably for others to read and make up their own mind on. It's not naming and shaming to alert others their DE is going to be AI coded in the future, or to point out the potential downfalls of the project adopting AI.
Come on now, you didn't just cross post this over here without adding your own editorializing. We understand your take, it colors your opinion, thats ok. Don't walk it back now. Own it.
I think it's quite clear I'm against AI use (especially in FLOSS projects) for the reasons I've laid out in the comments here, I make no bones about that. And you yourself are clearly pro-AI, and dislike arguments advocating against its use. You also appear to dislike the idea of individuals being able to contribute toward any sort of societal change with personal choices, instead much preferring to put the onus on a clearly corrupt government which is itself at the beck and call of the very AI companies we're discussing.