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Still softballs the fuck out of this for Ukraine as if they haven't been a proxy this whole time. Wake up baby boy its time to go to school 
The comments are special as well
Ukraine is pretty much the only 'western' country with a legitimate grievance against Iran, Iran has for years supplied Russia with munitions that they fire at Ukraine, and that is one accusation that Trump and his admin never make against Iran to justify their warmongering.
Ok so bombing kids is ok if your reasoning is different? Logistics chains all start in China so are you going to advocate for nuking China next? Radlibs please read a book
Not that you're wrong, it is complicated and people are indoctrinated, but It is generally a waste of time trying to educate liberals with low literacy skills and no concept of historical materialism, the moment the media demonstrates that X is bad... most liberals will change their stance as follows. It's more useful to try to organize in an effort to try to change the mainstream narrative or advance literacy skills of people. This is a self-crit btw I've wasted way too much time debating people online when I should have been doing better and I regret not using my time for a cause. So maybe I can share this as a learning experience for others.
If it's a waste of time to try to educate people, then what the hell are we doing?
I do sometimes notice people talking about conversations they had with others about Russia/Ukraine and being like "how do I get this lib to understand?"
Answer is you don't! The territory is pretty muddy and murky and there a ton of other topics you can use to kore clearly and definitively establish a socialist or anit-imperialist viewpoint. Just shift over to one of those, and everything gets a lot easier. I wouldn't get into it with someone who didn't already understand the basics of where im coming from (learned that lesson before)