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In brief, UK reporting on "ebike" collisions and battery fires confuses lawful, UK/EU-compliant electric bicycles with illegal, unregistered, uninsured electric motorcycles. As a result, public perception is deeply skewed compared to the actual risks posed by bona-fide electric bicycles.

A similar phenomenon can be seen in California, but there is drafted legislation to mandate accurate advertising of "e-motos" versus ebikes, with fines accruing to vendors that fail to correctly represent what they're selling.

IMO, it's hard for me to blame consumers whom, given high gasoline/petrol prices, need some form of transportation that gets them where they need to go and minimizes external harms (eg automobile risk of injury). Evan correctly identifies vendors and importers that flout the law and push the legal risk into riders. At the same time, e-motos are legit for off-road use and here in California, they're great fun in that regard. At bottom, fair advertising isn't controversial; it's no different than wanting to know the ingredients in food products.

On a separate note, Evan also flagged a case of police misidentification and confiscation of a lawful e-bike. Which I find particularly surprising, given that UK police tend to be more uniformly instructed than their American counterparts. No doubt that Californian police have also confused ebikes with electric motorcycles on occasion, but the result in the UK seems is to go immediately to confiscation and destruction without any meaningful system of review. Which seems problematic, at best

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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago

I will say 28 can feel pretty fast when it's whizzing right by you. It sounds low if you're used to being in a driver's seat but it's not.

I think this gets contentious because on streets, it's obviously safer for pedestrians for people to ride an e-bike than drive. And the higher speeds can be really crucial for people with longer commutes. Since I ride and walk mainly on city streets I've usually been against further regulation because I worry it will prevent people from moving away from cars that are way way more dangerous.

But I keep hearing people people talk about mixed use trails, and there it obviously can be a safety issue. I'm not really sure what the best solution is. Ideally something that limits the conflict on trails but still allows people to ride in the road.

It also seems like it must be demographically or geographically concentrated somehow because I've seriously never had an issue feeling threatened by a fast e-bike and I ride my (acoustic) bike every day.

Even 20mph past someone walking is too fast. Unfortunately, that seems to be the norm for acoustic cyclists around here. I'm sure people on ebikes do it too, but I don't see them much.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

I agree but what's the solution? Ideally separate walking and cycling paths but I don't really see that happening.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

Just making the shared paths as wide as possible and segregating it with a painted line does a lot, shared paths are bog standard here in sweden and while obviously it's not ideal it does generally work perfectly fine and can scale up to handle pretty significant amounts of traffic.

If you can make the path 5m wide and give pedestrians 2m and cyclists 1.5m in each direction, that's comfortable for basically anyone even with cyclists going quite fast.

Just get rid of the car paths and there'd be no problem with getting separate paths. An option with more of a chance of happening would be just giving cyclists protected bike lanes on roads instead of just having them share the lane with cars going 40 mph.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

Well as you point out this isn't super likely to happen any time soon but also it doesn't address what seems to be the main point of contact which is shared use bike trails in parks. I suppose you could add a second parallel trail for just pedestrians but that seems quite expensive.

The suggestion is a parallel bike path when possible... Just on the road instead of on the trail. Of course some will choose to use the trail as long as cars poison us...

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

You're missing the point. Most of these trails don't have a parallel road.

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