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I am the marble and the sculptor.
(thelemmy.club)
A man can not remake himself without suffering for he is both the marble and the sculptor.
The point is that it means everything and nothing, as meaningful as saying "life is hard" just dressed up in pretty words. It could fit great in a poem, it could be fit in into an actual philosophical work, but with context, without continuing it to allow it to be as vague and broad as possible. This is just how people who don't read philosophy think it works.
Idk man, it's accurate enough and slightly motivational (even if it's overly simplistic) so overall I approve of it, but I understand your position.
A lot of philosophy was pushed forward by confidently "wrong" (not the perfect term here, but it will suffice) people that provoked others into making a boundary pushing response, thus, being confidently wrong with proper argumentation that requires proper counterarguments is way more valuable than renaming and redefining things to be accurate enough. Its boring, there is nothing to analyze here, its something you think about for 5 seconds and go on. I hate it because there's not a tiniest bit of courage to try and find something new, meaningful, even if wrong
Not everyone can digest or will have the opportunity to read Hume and Schopie, messages need to be appropriate for the person receiving them. And in that case, if let's say an intellectually challenged person needs to accept the honey and the vinegar of life, and needs to be motivated into going forward regardless of pain, maybe this one little phrase is what they need. Relax, man, erudites are rare, the rest need slogans or else they get overwhelmed.
Are you saying that you shouldn't be here, as someone who prefers a slogan? In a place centered around philosophy? For people who actually read it? Go away then, otherwise you are just being silly
I'm saying you need to look at the bigger picture, understand that just like with height and bone density, people don't pick how smart they are so different messages are more or less useful for different people, and not have an unnecessary emotional reaction to a very matter-of-fact (if slightly annoyingly male "Eat Pray Love" vibe, lol), simple little phrase that is actually factual.
The bigger picture is that you are talking within a philosophy centered space, what, are you so zoomed out that you can't see the immediate context you are in? If anyone has enough time to find a place named "philosophy" and chat there they have time for introductory level reading (or even a podcast, that's where I started and it was far from perfect, but we all start somewhere).
God forbid people want actual philosophy in a philosophy space!!!
This is like the silliest form of gatekeeping. Maybe some teen's first actual thought was triggered by reading that phrase, let it be already.