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Which question do you want me to answer?
Is it:
Or:
Or:
Or:
?
Here’s 2
Do you think it’s “not that hard” to get a nursing degree or a teaching credential?
Do you think 50k$/year pre tax, the average starting salary for a teacher, is a livable wage?
EDIT: Sorry I missed your edit, but yeah, any of those questions too.
Also, apologies for getting back on topic. You were really roastin me good there.
EDIT2: and to be fair, you did address the moving the goalposts question. You just answered it with bullshit.
Neither, I was resetting the goal posts to their original position after your movement of them.
The words I wrote in the comment before that.
That you can’t read for shit, which incidentally, is not something that I proved, but you did yourself.
Either that, or you’re arguing in bad faith. I’m on the fence.
I do.
(Note: the questions you asked are what’s called “rhetorical questions”. People are not supposed to answer them, so they will think it’s weird if you get mad when they don’t answer them.)
Not for most people, no. Nursing can be hard to get into, but anyone motivated with a half-decent brain can do it.
But as I mentioned before: you don’t have to become a nurse or teacher to be of value to the human race, so don’t get stuck on these two examples, as that is what they are: examples. There are many other jobs that benefit society.
Yes. Let me ask you a question: do you think all starting teachers die? Or live in the street? (Don’t answer, this is another rhetorical one, it’s supposed to make you think about something you’re not getting!)
So to be clear you “know what illiterate means” and you’re gonna double down on how you think I’m illiterate?
Despite all the evidence to the contrary?
It was not a rhetorical question. You either don’t know the definition, you are lying when you continue to press on it, or you’re a fucking idiot.
Wow ok then. Didn’t realize you knew so much about most people. Thanks for the evidence.
Man, you just fuckin love irony/projection huh?
I don’t. Do you think that either of these would be necessary for it to be a non living wage? Do you think all people that work for minimum wage die or live on the street? Or do you think that minimum wage is a living wage?
Oops my bad. What was the thing I’m not getting?
Figuratively yes. (It was a joke, like I said before, but which you apparently also failed to read).
Not that I’ve seen.
So you really wanted me to answer whether I was moving goal posts or forgetting? Uhhuhh…
No problem.
So you think starting out with:
…puts you in the good-faith zone? Yeah I don’t think I’m the one projecting here. LOL
It’s hardly minimum wage. This is a nice example of moving the goal posts. I won’t move with you.
That 50k/yr is a living wage and there are plenty of people who start out with that salary and do fine. And they earn more over the years.
Sorry so it was a joke or not?
Or is this a joke now?
I really did. Thanks for answering the question both the first time, and the second time when you copy/pasted it.
Weird thing to do for questions you thought to be rhetorical.
I guess I could have been nicer when replying to your ignorant comment.
This is not an example of moving the goal posts. This was a clear and obvious example of showing you how bad your argument was.
Specifically, it’s a logical fallacy called denying the antecedent.
Eg if A then B
DOES NOT imply that
If NOT A then NOT B
In many many parts of the us, this is simply not a living wage. It’s borderline poverty.
https://livingwage.mit.edu/
I clearly wrote, for the third time now: the word illiterate was a joke about your lack of understanding a simple written sentence.
Maybe you’re hallucinating things now. There was nothing ignorant about my comment. Your sarcastic bullshit was simply asinine right off the bat. I was having a chat with that other guy and here you come barging in, your idiocy on full display. You’re not projecting that shit on me. Get it away from me.
You said :
If they’re not dead it means they’re living. If they’re not homeless it means they have a home. And they also have enough to eat. So by your standards they should have a living wage.
Also, it was reductio ad absurdum, and like I said, not questions one should really answer.
Teachers are living perfectly normal lives and they are not all on the brink of poverty. Sure they don’t drive the nicest car, but if that is what you think is important, just go work for Evil inc. instead.
You did. You also doubled down yet again with “none that I’ve seen”. Am I misreading that or was this another hilarious “joke?”
I’ve understood every word you’ve said. You’re just wrong.
There was and is. The comment were referring to is the one where you said “it’s not that hard” right?
That ignorant as fuck comment?
So to be clear, everybody who is not dead or homeless is making a living wage? Is that your argument?
This appears to be your standard. Not mine.
If I am misconstruing your standard, what is your standard?
Mine is that they should be able to afford reasonable shelter and food without having to find roommates or other external sources of income.
That is what I used to attack your argument, yes.
Why do you keep generalizing it to “all”? Where did “all” come into the conversation?
https://www.erstrategies.org/news/average-teacher-salary-is-below-the-living-wage-in-half-the-country/
Doubt.
We’re*
And you can pick whichever you want. You still haven’t made a case why any of them are ignorant. Using the word doesn’t make it so.
Well…
… apparently it’s yours. Which is why the reductio ad absurdum was mine, but nice try at trying to make it seem like you can read.
Still nope, see above.
More movement of the goal posts I see… whatever happened to food and shelter?
What’s your point? Why shouldn’t I generalize? We don’t know the financial situation of each teacher so we can only speak in general terms.
And for the umpteenth time –and the proof that you can’t read keeps building: it’s not about the teachers, or the nurses, they were just examples. There are other jobs, you know? As are there other countries outside of the US.
And the fact that teachers are underpaid is something I already acknowledged in the comment you responded to, which you could have read, hadn’t you been illiterate. So I don’t know what you’re trying to argue.
The premise was that the jobs were hard to find. They are not. Period.
Lmfao. Got me there! Was that pretty confusing for you without the apostrophe?
I have, but I’ll say it again.
It’s ignorant because the jobs that give back to humanity and pay a livable wage are hard to get. You just choose to believe that they are not.
You also seem to be willfully ignorant of what a livable wage means.
If this is what you were trying to do, you did a shit job. I even deconstructed it for you.
This isn’t moving the goal posts. This is the literal definition of a livable wage.
What is your definition?
Loads of reasons, but most relevant here is that you can make some very misleading but technically true statements when you do so.
For example:
Not all homeless people are poor.
Not all doors can open.
Technically true, but when we’re talking about the typical case, highlighting that there are exceptions is pointless.
You dont? I’m trying to argue that many many teachers don’t get paid a living wage.
Are you illiterate or something?
It is though. The fact that these jobs don’t exist, or are hard to get, is what this entire conversation is about. That, and you trying to derail it to shit on me.
The premise was that the jobs that are both fulfilling and pay decently were hard to get. And they are.
Assertion fallacy.
Just helping you on your way towards literacy. You’re welcome!
Really? Where? Show me all those incredible arguments you made!
Are they? You haven’t shown that. All you did was get worked up about the salary of teachers in some states in the US, which I never even denied.
More empty statements from the guy that can’t even read. Yeah I’m gonna be a no on that one.
Really? Being able to have a house or an apartment without roommates is in the definition? And if you started out with “food and shelter”, this is quite literally the (in this case real) definition of moving the goal posts.
Nice no u. No, if you actually would have used your brain you might have figured out that the point is: why are you trying to argue something that I already acknowledged in my second comment, the one you responded to, as if I’m denying that teachers are underpaid?
They do exist and are not hard to get. Have you even tried?
LOL there is no derailing a conversation that starts with:
Train was off the tracks with both wheels right from the start. This is all on you.
Was it? Where did the OP say that? Please use direct quotes.
Yeah that’s not what that is LOL but nice try there buddy!
Alright man. You win.
Your troll powers are too much for me.
QED
Nice “no u” again, but you only have yourself to blame for this.
Next time maybe don’t start off in bad faith and see where that leads you.
QED
Do you have words of your own?
QED
QED indeed, or, as someone else phrased it:
QED
I thought you were done? Or is spamming your new tactic now all else has failed?
QED
So you started out with annoying and bad faith and you’re ending it the same way… your parents must be so proud of you. If only the reading proficiency could get a little better…
QED
As I said before: get lost troll
QED