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[-] Foxer@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago

Do you think Carney's going to do that? Carnie who's giving trump everything he's asked for so far and just caved on the Gordie Howe Bridge? Why do you think trump is doing this, he knows he can get whatever he wants at a Carney and look like a hero

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[-] Foxer@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zttOoJwvi6A https://nationalnewswatch.com/2026/07/16/we-paid-for-the-bridge-now-were-paying-the-toll

I can post about a dozen more if you need to.

Turns out your no name influencer was wrong. The deal was leaked to boomberg and it does NOT include payment on the interest to the debt which carney had suggested, and it's a worse deal for us than we had. Mark Carney caved And gave a better deal to the president instead of standing up for Canada. As he has done many times in the past.

Well I'm sure the Prime Minister appreciates you're desperate efforts on his behalf to justify his actions against Canadian interests the facts are the facts

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Mark Carney caved And gave a better deal to the president instead of standing up for Canada.

The thing that most people miss is that Carney isn't reactionary. He doesn't give in to squabbling or public chirping. He's a pragmatist and plays the long game.

Could he have "stood up for Canada"? Sure. Would it have done any good? Probably not.

He knows the US is no longer the same reliable trading partner. Carney got the deal out the door to get some trade going, while the real focus is with just about every other country in the world. The bridge and its deal are just a distraction at this point.

I'm sure the Prime Minister appreciates you're desperate efforts on his behalf to justify his actions against Canadian interests

I'm sure he doesn't care. He's not a whiney baby.

[-] Foxer@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

I disagree entirely. Carney is entirely reactionary and has no plan for the long term.

Let's take a look at some of the evidence. He had no plan whatsoever to arrive at a deal with trump. That is now obvious. There was no strategy or anything. He just gave trump what he wanted and hopes that trump would have mercy, and that's just not trump.

He claimed that we would build houses at a rate not seen since world war II because he knew that's what people wanted to hear at the time. But he had absolutely no plan to deal with that and worse not only are we building fewer homes than we were but his big strategy was to bail out the developers because they're having their first bad year in almost two decades.

He claimed that he would create a law that would have private investment building pipelines in Canada. And his weirdo Tinkerbell law that said he can magically wave his wand and make something legal that isn't legal didn't impress the industry at all and was a horrible idea. Now in reaction to that he's offering to put up taxpayer dollars to build a pipeline but he still hasn't put forward any kind of business cases to why that's the best idea for Canada. He's only reacting to Alberta threatening to separate

I could go on for some time but the fact that matter is everything he does reacts to what's happening at the moment and there is absolutely no long-term planning

And there's no chance by the way of every other country in the world replacing America as our trading partner. The one thing he did say that was correct was that Canada could be its own trading partner if we eliminated interprovincial trade barriers and that would replace a good deal of what we send to the states. He said that was going to be one of his focuses and produced a report showing that it could almost entirely make up for what we lost with the Americans

Then he got elected and found out it was hard and abandoned the idea. He eliminated one federal law that really wasn't a problem for anybody and then after one meeting with the provinces gave up and ran away. Now he's flying all over the world spending billions of dollars and not bringing back any significant amount of money instead of spending that time working with the provinces to find a way to create an economic union between them that would solve our problems

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And there's no chance by the way of every other country in the world replacing America as our trading partner.

It's already happening.

Canada and Japan just signed a massive deal for Canada to supply Japan with our heavy crude, and also to help Japan retrofit their refineries to process our oil.

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