▲ 511 ▼ It's always for your safety (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 month ago by ThunderComplex@lemmy.today to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 49 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 25 points 1 month ago (2 children) Rip out your modem. Cars should NEVER have a modem. Ever. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) The camera processes everything internally. There some build in machine learning model. It should not communicate or send anything images outside. Of course the problem is that it's all closed source so you can't verify that. Cars also call 112 now automatically in case of an accident so I suspect that ripping out your modem may cause some warning lights on your dashboard which can mean you will not pass your mandatory technical revision. So if you rip out your modem the camera will still work but you may have other issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago In the US it's absolutely sending that data out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Keep it for testing. I don't want my car to be able to call anyone. Ever. For any reason. Notice the @infosec.pub . Trust me it's wildly irresponsible engineering permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) So you will put in the modem before technical check and the take it out again? That's a great idea. Let me know what car model you have and how do you remove the model. The more instructions like this we have the better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago I drive older cars. Ask your local car audio shop. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child) if i make an incident, someone will either call the 112 for me or i will do it, unless i am in the fucking land of no one, so the car callin the emergency number is straight up useless permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) I didn't say it's useful or not. I said that cars have it. It's mandatory in all new cars since 2018. If you disable it your car may not pass technical checks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago* It wasn't something direct to you specifically but a general comment on that BS, mb permalink fedilink source parent [–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I think they've thought of that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) The camera processes everything internally. There some build in machine learning model. It should not communicate or send anything images outside. Of course the problem is that it's all closed source so you can't verify that. Cars also call 112 now automatically in case of an accident so I suspect that ripping out your modem may cause some warning lights on your dashboard which can mean you will not pass your mandatory technical revision. So if you rip out your modem the camera will still work but you may have other issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago In the US it's absolutely sending that data out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Keep it for testing. I don't want my car to be able to call anyone. Ever. For any reason. Notice the @infosec.pub . Trust me it's wildly irresponsible engineering permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) So you will put in the modem before technical check and the take it out again? That's a great idea. Let me know what car model you have and how do you remove the model. The more instructions like this we have the better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago I drive older cars. Ask your local car audio shop. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child) if i make an incident, someone will either call the 112 for me or i will do it, unless i am in the fucking land of no one, so the car callin the emergency number is straight up useless permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) I didn't say it's useful or not. I said that cars have it. It's mandatory in all new cars since 2018. If you disable it your car may not pass technical checks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago* It wasn't something direct to you specifically but a general comment on that BS, mb permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago In the US it's absolutely sending that data out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Keep it for testing. I don't want my car to be able to call anyone. Ever. For any reason. Notice the @infosec.pub . Trust me it's wildly irresponsible engineering permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) So you will put in the modem before technical check and the take it out again? That's a great idea. Let me know what car model you have and how do you remove the model. The more instructions like this we have the better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago I drive older cars. Ask your local car audio shop. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) So you will put in the modem before technical check and the take it out again? That's a great idea. Let me know what car model you have and how do you remove the model. The more instructions like this we have the better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago I drive older cars. Ask your local car audio shop. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago I drive older cars. Ask your local car audio shop. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child) if i make an incident, someone will either call the 112 for me or i will do it, unless i am in the fucking land of no one, so the car callin the emergency number is straight up useless permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) I didn't say it's useful or not. I said that cars have it. It's mandatory in all new cars since 2018. If you disable it your car may not pass technical checks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago* It wasn't something direct to you specifically but a general comment on that BS, mb permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) I didn't say it's useful or not. I said that cars have it. It's mandatory in all new cars since 2018. If you disable it your car may not pass technical checks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago* It wasn't something direct to you specifically but a general comment on that BS, mb permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago* It wasn't something direct to you specifically but a general comment on that BS, mb permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I think they've thought of that permalink fedilink source parent