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Vegans: Why does no one like us?
Also Vegans: (Always "on" and going out of their way to insert themselves into situations so they can act exactly like that).
Yes I know not all vegans are like that but I also never see them telling the militant ones to STFU and stop making them al look bad.
If you think something is a moral emergency, you're going to be more hysterical about it. It's like saying "democrats need to stop being so militant about climate change and tell others who are to stop." You can drive a hummer and fly a private jet everywhere as a lifestyle choice, but people can and should call you out for it.
Regular vegetarians have tried to tell them to tone it down, it just makes them more radical.
That's because vegetarians are hypocrites or don't care about animal suffering in the first place. Ideologically they have more in common with meat eaters than with vegans.
Perfection is the enemy of good. Being vegetarian is already a huge improvement, not just for animal welfare, but also from an ecological viewpoint.
It's a lot easier to convince people to eat less meat, or give it up entirely, than to just become vegan overnight. And many vegetarians eventually become vegan
Do you expect vegans to mind control other vegans or something? Militant people are usually not the ones who listen when you ask them to shut up.
Isn't mind control a perk you can select on a vegan Fallout run?
"Militant" is being kind. "Belligerent" is closer to the experience.
I don't buy meat, but I'll eat it if it's given to me. It's a treat to me, and I savour it when it happens. The downside is that vegetarians, vegans, and meat eaters all hate me ๐
you are doing better than 98% of people so I think vegans and vegetarians would be extremely happy with that (I'm "vegan" but will eat stuff thats going in the trash otherwise)
It's as annoying as someone bragging about big ol' raw steaks and ribs and such, like they have been doing in the Texas political stuff lately. Both as a smear ("look at this pussy non-Texan!") and a defense ("I do love ribs, I really do!") and it all comes across the same way to me.
Truthfully, neither types of statements personally bother me, but given everything we know about the climate, economics, etc., the vegans are better and easier to defend.
a nonzero amount of this is literally astroturfing to make vegans look bad, if this makes you dislike vegans in general you're kinda just falling for meat industry propaganda.
I'm not a vegan but i don't eat red meat, so i guess this doesn't count as me telling militant """""vegans""""" to stfu, but whatever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do-gooder_derogation
It's your subconscious telling you they're right and trying to protect your ego.
Nah, I will readily admit that vegans are morally correct, that I am weak for being unable to commit fully, and also that the evangelism is often cringe and counterproductive.
I think veganism just self-selects for insane people, because you have to be a bit crazy to go against 98% of the population, eat differently than your friends and family, and ask constantly if things have cheese or milk in them everywhere you go.
source: me
Well, tbf ya vegans aren't alone on this one
The weakness is not daring to fully understand how vegans are morally correct. I ate animals for 34 years and was too weak to face the reality of their situation.
God, if only those people who want to save the planet shut the fuck up about it! How about you save the planet without annoying me??
they may want to save the planet, but being vegan doesn't do that.
I do not disagree, but considering the meat-eating cultures, telling them to stop, has not exactly proved to be a winning move. The more working way seems to be, to get them reduce their meat consumption first. Then slowly convince them to take steps further... and even if that takes a long time, less meat is still eaten, so it is towards a better direction. Of course it would be better, if everyone would just stop eating meat right now. But that is still an idealistic take, sadly, especially with the meat industry having the lobbying money right now.
Whilst I understand your argument, if a strategy isn't working, pursuing it becomes more of a personal identity thing than a commitment to an objective.
"The planet" doesn't need "saving" and has less than zero fucks to give about anyone or anything. Stop with the prepackaged white knighting, FFS. You're not doing anyone a favor, least of all yourself.
"Don't be mean to the meat eaters in case they might consider stopping someday" isn't a very effective strategy at getting people to think about what they're supporting though.
Neither is being mean, as it turns out.
Lol. What a childish take. How about, "Worry about yourself and your own problems. If it doesn't hurt you, you can't tell people what to do, and you shouldn't want to either. If they ask, that's one thing. But jumping on your soapbox every chance you get to preach the virtues of veganism is the same energy as religious zealots who try to recruit everyone they speak to. Nobody wants to be around that all the time. Don't be that person."
Keeping your head down, worrying only about your own problems is exactly what the Epstein class wants out of you. Don't ask, don't question, don't push, just lie down and take it.
"Don't advocate for others ever", got it.