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[-] edible_funk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

No. The system is "claims made without evidence can be dismissed without consideration." Theists claim without evidence deities exist. Atheists make no claim of their own, they submit dismiss theists' claims since, as mentioned before, claims made without evidence can be dismissed without consideration. Anti-theism on the other hand does claim that no deities can exist, and arguably is a belief system as belief systems do not require strict evidence. Atheism is just a logical framework. That's not a belief system, and if you're arguing it is then you could argue anything is a belief system.

[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 0 points 2 days ago

You're right that atheism and anti-theism are technically different, though they're often used interchangeably. A framework is a system, though, so yes, anything can be a belief system. I wrote this in another comment in this post, which I think sums it up:

Technically you could form a system of beliefs around the existence of frogs if you thought about them enough. You wouldn’t even need to change your understanding of frogs at all - just the act of thinking hard enough about them to fully understand and articulate your thoughts forms the system itself. The word "system" has many definitions, granted, but the one that applies in this scenario is that it's an organized set of ideas. Literally organizing your thoughts on any given matter creates a system of beliefs. That's why we have so many religions - they're incredibly easy to form about nearly anything.

[-] edible_funk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Whether people incorrectly use them interchangeably is irrelevant since they're two distinct categories that aren't actually all that related. Anti-theism is a belief system as much as any theism is. Atheism has nothing to do with belief, it simply disregards claims made without evidence. It's a logical framework independent of belief.

[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 points 2 days ago

That would be true if we weren't specifically replying to a post about how a guy described his anti-theistic beliefs as being Atheist. We're using the word "Atheism" in this thread because OP did, but we're all talking about anti-theism.

[-] edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 points 2 days ago

With you, I'll be sure to do that from now on. With others, I'll continue using the language they use to avoid confusion. Words mean what we collectively decide they mean. That's why one of the definitions of the word "literally" is now the same as the word "figuratively," just from its common use in that way.

For better or for worse, enough people use the word "Atheism" to mean "Anti-theism" that it's generally considered a valid use of the word, especially in situations like these where OP specifically gave context to what he means when he uses the word "Atheism."

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