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[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah… crafts are not art. That’s why we have craft and design museums separated from art museums. A really well made ball is a “piece of art” metaphorically. But it does seem people believe the metaphor to be literal.

Like a good craftsperson is an “artist” because they make beautiful ethereal objects, not because they make art.

[-] Aradino@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

I simply disagree with this narrow definition of art

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean that’s fine. Art is hard to define.

But in general we know the difference between art and craft. A soccer ball can be art, if it’s art. If it’s a soccer ball, it’s an object and not art. Even if it’s the best soccer ball ever.

But like, if a toilet can be art, of course a soccer ball can be as well. It’s just that not all soccer balls or toilets (or games) are art.

You mentioned that artists worked on FIFA making the grass etc. They might as well be artists (and make art on the side). But making grass for a product whose sole purpose is to make money (and not transport you or convey an emotional/cognitive place) is not art.

A factory worker making a great toilet isn’t making art. But Duchamp grabbing that signing it and placing it in a gallery is.

Art is not about how well crafted something is at all. And you can’t craft your way into making art.

Also something not being art is not a criticism or negative judgement at all. There’s a lot (like most tbh) of really shitty art and a lot of really good non-art.

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