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'End American Aid': Netanyahu Says Israel No Longer Needs US Assistance (www.news18.com)
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I notice that he's specifying "economic aid," not the other kind.

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[–] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (24 children)

It's been funny to see the liberal Zionists here cheer on DSA candidates for policies recommended by Netanyahu himself. The "end military aid" to Israel is exactly what he wants. As long as Americans can wash their hands of the mess they made and get their treats after, everything's good.

Edit: Just read this: https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/memos/israels-proposal-to-end-us-military-aid-is-actually-designed-to-further-enmesh-the-us-in-its-oppression-of-palestinians . Nobody responding to me has read anything about this subject. Just literal Great Man Theory "Netanyahu is the real evil"ism. Most knowledgeable Hexbear discussion on Israel:

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  • [+] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)
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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    Supporting this is a limited hangout. Military funding to Israel is very unpopular so they are moving to a different model.

    https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/memos/israels-proposal-to-end-us-military-aid-is-actually-designed-to-further-enmesh-the-us-in-its-oppression-of-palestinians

    I mean do you really think the Democrats can just ignore the extreme unpopularity of Israel right now? And then do you also believe that they are just going to stop supporting it's existence as much as they can get away with? None of the people that support this really want an end to Israel (which should be everyone's goal).

    better than nothing.

    There it is. It always comes down to this. "Why support good thing, when I could support not as terrible thing instead?"

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    So, what? We should support military aid to Israel?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    That's not their point. Their point is that "Military aid" to Israel is not all that must be opposed. That is not where the genocidal military industrial complex begins nor ends.

    I don't agree with the way they are phrasing it. But they have not stated support for Israel, and I dont think we need to assume zionism of people.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Netanyahu absolutely does not actually want an end to US military aid. Netanyahu is a liar, and what he is doing here is lying.

    He wants to appear strong and powerful. And he also wants to be handed billions in arms with no strings attached.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    No, he is smart (smarter than anyone responding to me, and certainly smarter than your average Democrat). He wants to entwine the US military with that of Israel, which could not be cut off by a bill being passed or not. Military funding to Israel is very unpopular and he knows that. And he is (successfully) getting ahead of it.

    https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/memos/israels-proposal-to-end-us-military-aid-is-actually-designed-to-further-enmesh-the-us-in-its-oppression-of-palestinians

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Yeah. He means stop sending them aid in the same sense that Diego Garcia doesn't receive "aid", and instead integrate them into the logistics & procurement systems so they can order everything for themselves

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Yes yes. But until he gets to purchase with the US' checkbook he still needs the aid, and it is dishonest to imply otherwise.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Okay, you should direct that towards someone who's implying that, not me. Most people, including people on this site, as you can see from the replies, are not thinking about why this is happening. You say "yes yes", except that everyone else is denying it. So why aren't you replying to them?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    this is obviously a bluff what are you talking about?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    So you mean all the Democrats (and Lindsay Fucking Graham, for example) just suddenly decided they didn't want to kill as many arabs as possible and that's why they are all on board with this? What would the point of this bluff even be?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    For the people responding to this person, what they're talking about (I'm assuming) is how Netanyahu is pushing for a restructuring of relationships between Israel's military and the US military; if this passes, then US military spending will AUTOMATICALLY mean funding Israel militarily; at that point cutting funding to Israel's military will mean nothing because then money spent on the US military will simply directly go to Israel without a real trail because it'll look like it's simply funding the US military.

    Yes we want an end to military aid to Israel, but I think what Kumikommunism means is that this loophole makes ending military aid to Israel a fake victory to placate libs, because Israel will continue to get weapons except as if they were members of the US military, meaning nothing will be achieved anyway.

    (I hope my assumption of what you're saying is correct)

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