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Arnaud Bertrand's review of the Volume 5 of Xi Jinping's Governance of China, published by China's Beijing Review.

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[-] Rylo@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago

And some more of his, in the context the west missunderstanding China (related to this article):

But the starting point of understanding anyone - a person, a culture, a civilization - has to be listening to what they actually say, not deciding in advance that it's all a performance. You can be critical after you've listened. You can't be critical instead of listening. Otherwise you end up in exactly the situation we're currently in with China: in perpetual surprise at everything they do, because - guess what - they don't act upon our caricature of them but, like all of us, upon their own self-understanding.

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For instance, in the 1970s, game theorist Anatol Rapoport wrote (anatolrapoport.net/2023…) that "a pre-requisite in a genuine debate is a complete understanding by each of the opponents of the other’s position. The criterion for such understanding must be not one’s own feeling that one has understood the other’s position but the other’s feeling that his position has been completely understood."

Of which the latter is something everyone should try to emulate if trying to engage in actual fruitful discussion.

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unfortunately that goes entirely against the ingrained chauvinism and supremacism of the West. "We don't need to make an effort to understand others who are not like us because they are wrong and they are beneath us."

There is also this pervasive attitude that understanding is tantamount to approval. For example in Germany, they disparagingly label anyone trying to explain the Russian position in the Ukraine war, or just in general with regards to the West, as "Putinversteher" = "Putin Understanders". Which, by the very fact that this term is so widely accepted as a perjorative in Germany, means that a lot of people fundamentally believe that to understand the other side is sinful and a betrayal of your own.

The only "approved" way of interpreting what the other side says and does is through the a-priori assumption that it is fundamentally nefarious in intent. This also extends to our view of China. We are axiomatically good, they are axiomatically evil, and nuance is heresy.

I call this liberal fundamentalism, it's liberalism as a religion taken to fanatical levels.

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