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Holy fuck this is absolutely deranged.

The barbara-pit would be too kind.

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[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

They are highly adapted to capitalist reality and earnestly hold up commodity fetishism as a virtue.

Consumerism, greed, fixation on possessions, etc. are not commodity fetishism. The "fetish" is not like a sexual fetish in that it means an obsession or deep desire for something, it's a different re-appropriation of the outdated anthropological idea of people creating idols and then considering the idol that they created to be a god, the analogy being that commodities come to us as things that exist by themselves with the social relations that brought about their production being obscured.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The term is misused a lot, but I used it intentionally in the precise meaning you described, the sense that people attribute agency to commodities and The Market more broadly. Evangelicalism is a neoliberal religion that is highly adapted to contemporary capitalism. Whereas an “ordinary” politician speaks quasi-religiously about the so-called Founding Fathers and Liberty, Evangelicals attribute all these “virtues” of capitalism to God. In other words, capitalism is divinely inspired and to be capitalist is to be Christlike. It’s why evangelicals are among the most rabidly anticommunist: to be a Marxist is to oppose God, in fact to substitute humanity in his place.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't understand how that explains your use of the term. I don't think the vast majority of Evangelicals care one way or another about commodity fetishism and in fact tend to be crass examples of its effect in that the concept is basically invisible to them (like the social relations it describes), rather than them propounding its "virtue" somehow.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think my wording just fell flat then. I’m not saying that they are self-aware of their own delusion, but that they are delusional due to commodity fetishism, and make the result of that delusion the center of their ideology. That is a step beyond garden-variety liberalism; it’s a religion constructed around commodity fetishistic ideology.

They don’t say “we are deluded about commodities and so should you,” they instead say “we believe the Free Market is a conduit for God’s providence” and use that to justify poverty of the masses and wealth for the ruling class. (After all, if the Free Market is divine, then wealth demonstrates God’s approval.)

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Fair enough, thanks for explaining and sorry if I was being obtuse

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Not at all, it’s a fair question and I think others will benefit from your explanation

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