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EU says China trained Russian troops to fight in Ukraine war
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The Western idea of "defense" is genocide.
If your only remaining argument is more whataboutism entirely unrelated to the nation of Taiwan then I guess we are finished here.
Comparing Chinese aggression to USA aggression in regards to national aggression finishes the argument for you?
If so, not in your favor
"Whataboutism" is weak, lazy, and intellectually insulting. Do better.
(lots of history and a good discussion until you squeezed the whataboutism turd out)
You have no idea what whataboutism is then. You said:
and I said the definition of defense, according to the US, is genocidal force projection. If you think that's whataboutism, then you can maintain your thought-terminating cliche and ignore the fact that the empire is consistently lying to you about what defense is.
Look, if you can not honestly engage with the topic of Taiwanese self-governance and keep trying to find excuses for Chinese aggression towards their peaceful neighbor, even going so far as denying the existence of the Taiwanese nation (both historical and present) then you clearly need to do a deep self-inspection on who here is operating with "thought-terminating cliches" and needs to lay off on imperial propaganda 🤷
Again, you are characterizing Chinese national security as aggression when China is literally not committing acts of agression. I don't know why you think that's a form of honesty.
I am engaged in the topic of Taiwanese self-government - I honestly don't believe they are entitled to it and I have stated my reasons why. If you think my honesty is being dishonest because the only honest position is believing that Taiwan should be a sovereign nation, then I hate to break it to you but you have no idea what honesty is and you are using the term "honesty" to mean "agrees with me".
If you think that my arguments about nations, countries, being states having related but distinct historical processes that can be compared across continents, regions, cultures, and time periods is a set of thought-terminating cliches, then maybe I overestimated your ability to participate in discourse above the level of "I know you are but what am I".