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[โ€“] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

This is tough, because I would like to see China as more sensible than Russia, and their help to Russia does not seem overwhelming.
Still this is cause to worry IMO. Because China claims to support international law, but training troops to fight in an illegal war against Ukraine is obviously contrary to supporting international law, as China claim they do.
I still hope China will be a more reasonable player on the international scene than what USA has become, and will adopt a more EU like approach of prosperity through cooperation.
If they do we will have a bright future ahead on both sides. If they don't, the world will become a lot worse than during the Pax America era that is coming to an end. Because China could become even more powerful than USA used to be.

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  • [โ€“] 15 points 2 months ago (50 children)

    China says they support international law, but then dont, look at what they do in the south pacific, the 9 dashes or whatever, making territorial claims against the Philippines and Taiwan, copy right infringement etc. Im not mad at China for training russian troops they are somewhat friendly to one another.

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  • [โ€“] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I think the artificial islands is China trying to be clever. Allegedly they are doing that to ensure their commercial traffic, IDK if this is really necessary? But some say that USA (through allies) have China kind of locked in, and could block Chinese transports in case of conflict.
    If that is true, I can understand how that is a problem for China, and why they are trying to get around it.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    No, that's just excusing china's behavior. They do shit like all the big players do

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I mean you could say the same about any country supporting Israel so almost all European countries. Yes its really fucking horrible that Germany supports Israel, but that doesnt make them as bad as Israel itself. Same with China here, they adhere to international law until they decide not to. But technically speaking im not even sure if supplying Russia with weapons and training even violates international law.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Still bloody horrible that European countries continue to support Israel, and it's completely contrary to EU values and requirement of observing human rights.
    At least most European countries are withdrawing support of Israel, and do not sell weapons to Israel anymore.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah i think most people on here will agree that both of these are morally unacceptable.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 2 months ago*

    Absolutely, difference is that with Germany it is decidedly against the ideals of EU, and illegal by EU standards.
    Now we need to realize that we are not following our own required standard, and we need to adjust so we do.

    China is not under any similar internal obligations.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 2 months ago*

    Both China and USA ignore international law routinely as a matter of course.

    China will get its turn to run the show soon enough, and they won't do any better (from an international law/human rights POV) It's bloody business whether it's Rome, the UK, the USA, or China in charge

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 2 months ago*

    Both China and USA have trainers active in the Ukraine right now, and they always have and always will.

    Don't take it personally, war is a very lucrative business and China and USA are both very active in almost every conflict around the world (either directly or through proxy).

    It's just business.

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