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Boycott US
Overview:
The community dedicated to boycotting the US until they stop fascism, restore full democracy and start following international law.
Americans have a moral obligation to resist Donald Trump and project 2025 at every turn.
America is a flawed democracy currently being ruled by oligarchs. Stop the backslide! Dont let America become the next Hungary.
America needs to challenge the court rulings of citizens united v. fec and shelby county v. holder, protect the media, implement independent district drawing, and the single transferable vote so they don't end up having people stay home in life-changing elections because they cannot vote for their favourite candidate.
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I wonder if this is good for the economy?
For the Canadian economy and other regional holiday destinations, it is.
I agree with you, but also I want to emphasize that there is a cost to all of us from this. Canada is more dynamic and vibrant when it interacts with its neighbors, so is the US, which means that by being toxic shitty neighbors the US holds Canada back and diminishes it.
This is the cost of having shitty neighbors, you lose out on the natural wealth that arises from living next to good neighbors.
It is very important that it is not lost in the narrative that an interconnected economy is beneficial to everybody involved, and that the US damaging the trust necessary for this has real longterm economic consequences because it "artificially" limits the potential growth the US could be experiencing from more interaction with the Canadian economy and vice versa.
This is a crime that has been done that neither the majority of people in the US nor Canada really wanted, which isn't to argue that it isn't wise for Canada to become more independent from the US just to point out what prosperity has been toppled here.
Nah, it’s a good thing when we separate ourselves from the aggressive superpower down south.
There is a cost to all of us, but not all costs are economic. Economic interchange is good, but I think we may have been sold a line when it comes to the value of economic interdependence, especially with countries we lack common values with. Our hurry to grow our economic integration with others has deeply undermined our ability to set our own course as a nation, and now more than ever we're facing the consequences of that decision to not stand on our own two feet, when it's easier to rely on foreign supply chains. We should absolutely work to diversify our economic relationships, but we have to acknowledge that the days where we can trade away our domestic resilience for the efficiency of market specialization are behind us. We need domestic manufacturing and processing, even if it's going to require subsidy and we need to work on boosting domestic self-sufficiency. We need to recognize that ultimately, the only ones that we can always depend on are each other, we need to work hard to help build trust internally. Integrity is worth more than all the oil and gold on Earth right now, and we need to very quickly move to make our system reflect that.
Yeah this seems like a time we should be pumping resources into the Federal Business Development Bank, or whatever they call it now, as Canadian business pundit-of-the-day always complains about the lack of investment funds being a barrier to building up local industry.
The BDC (I checked , that's the latest name) may be making a difference but it's not enough. Whole sectors should receive massive public attention.
This is absolutely the right answer. If we can't find foreign investment, it's time to create some domestically in strategic critical industries. If necessary we should be willing to spin up crown corps to cover critical resources as well.
Yes but this sentiment extends globally too.
Again I fully support Canada becoming more independent I am just saying that we do need all of each other, isolationism is always worse in the end, which doesn't mean we have to be maximalist about it or not recognize the damage economic systems have done that have promoted offshoring industries.
What it means is that we need to all recognize when a shitty leader or administration topples a collective prosperity and causes everything to atomize that at a basic mathematical level it diminishes the overall potential of everybody who experiences that shattering. That is part of the basic crime of it, and we shouldn't let those shitty people get away with not answering to that crime just because Canada is in the mood for more isolationism right now in an understandable and justifiable way.
I agree with the sentiment that isolationism is not the answer, but I also think we need to accept reality that as the US falls apart our global supply chains are going to be incredibly vulnerable going forward. I don't want to end foreign trade, but the extreme fragility of just-in-time supply chains is simply not going to be an option, likely ever again. If we cannot provide at least a minimum level of self-sufficiency, we cannot consider ourselves a legitimate nation. Period. If the US decided to enforce an illegal embargo on Canada the way it's doing to Cuba right now, how long do you think we'd last? With the human and natural resources we have, there is absolutely no excuse for the fact that the correct answer is "Not very long." When you live next door to a nation of pirates, raiders, and thieves, not being capable of weathering a siege is incompetence and mismanagement. Having a minimum level of strategic domestic production of everything from glass, to chips, to refined oil products is table stakes.
Canada needs to separate economically because the US is actively preparing Alberta for an invasion, they're almost at the "handing out us passports to secessionists" stage.
This isn't like "oh they belched in front of my mom", this is "they are actively discussing annexation".
Canada will become a Chinese vassal state if it wants to maintain a scrap of sovereignty.
You may not like it, but this is what peak winning looks like.
Bullying Canadians so they stop giving us money? Winning!
It must be, otherwise a political and financial genius like Trump wouldn't have done it. We plebs just have to be patient and wait for the positive results.