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cogsucker
(thelemmy.club)
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
I mean, I use a local LLM in much the way I would do pair or partner programming with another person... one person is in charge but the other is actively reviewing, checking for problems... but then maybe you both switch at a point where one has a different kind of idea, or one person is totally befuddled.
So... that's not the same as just 'chatgpt write my entire codebase'... which yeah, basically is just sitting in the cuckchair...
Maybe the way I'm talking about is more like an active threesome, somebody is analagously the unicorn, I dunno, hahaha!
There are a LOT of people who simply don’t bother to check the output of Claude (or <LLM_OF_CHOICE>).
Source: I’m dealing with an absolute firehose of vibe coded PRs from our contractors right now. I swear to god I’m just conversing with their Claude processes. They are very clearly not only not checking their output, but also just responding to PR comments with Claude. I’m getting very close to just making PR comments as if I was directly addressing my own local Claude process, including feedback loops and doc cross checks and so on, which they’re clearly not bothering with. They’re not even vibe coding well.
I mean... you can't vibecode well, nobody can, your example here well illustrates that.
Vibecoding -> the magic machine operates via special incantations, and that makes me a magician!
AI-assisted coding -> Ok this hallucinating genius dumbass ram devouring monster is simultaneously very capable in some ways and horrendously stupid in others.. if I am very gentle and precise with it, as one would be with a toddler, it may be very helpful, but I can never assume it may not have a critical and fundamental incomprehension of some kind.
LLMs are clearly useful, in the right hands.
They're great for a senior or mid level dev to use as an extremely fallible assistant.
They're good for junior devs to both learn some basics about code and also some basics about how LLMs are not magic.
Like, plug a junior dev into an LLM and then the ask the dev to review the resulting code.
That's not a bad way to train up a junior dev.
... But this shit isn't production ready just because it involved an LLM at some point!
Its literally all experimental!
C Suite and Managers are just fucking idiots!
It is just that simple!
They don't want to do their jobs anymore, and they fell for marketing hype.
I'm genuinely less mad at dumbass but eager vibe coders caught up in a delusion... they're disproportionately inexperienced, they wouldn't really have a way to know better.
The dumbasses in charge that are cramming the kind of workflow and workforce setup you describe down everyone's throats?
These fucking idiots should know better.
They basically could not be more perfectly incompetent, and they should be roundly laughed at and openly mocked as the idiot clowns they are, to their faces, all the time, everywhere, including work settings.
Literally the survival of the human species may depend on our ability to point out and identify to these people's faces that they are in fact complete fraud morons.