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Asked whether a potential meeting would take place in the US or in a different place, Trump replied, "I don't know. I haven't really heard too much about it." He continued, "I didn't suggest it [a meeting], but some people have suggested it."

"If it happened, it would be happening. I'd be respectful." White House correspondent Peter Doocy, co-anchor of The Sunday Briefing for Fox News, then asked the president, "Do you think because Epic Fury killed his dad and his wife and his kid that he has hard feelings?"

Trump said, "Well, I would say I'm not his favorite person, but with that being said, he's probably a professional. In some circles he has a very good reputation, actually."

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[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 61 points 16 hours ago

"If it happened, it would be happening."

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what all of America has decided best represents their values and identity. Act accordingly.

[-] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 hours ago

If it happened, it would be happening.

"He tells it like it is!"

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago
[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -5 points 15 hours ago

Correct.

It's far, far, far past the point that all the "we didn't vote for Trump" Americans take on some responsibility for this mess.

Your (overall) complacency is collectively your fault now. You have a babbling pedophile as a president who is actively destroying the world as we know it, and the best you can do is scoff at the suggestion you bear any responsibility for this.

How very American.

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

You're right, but they'll hate you for it

Too many of the "good" Americans have still bought into the system

They celebrate selfishness, fetishise "the grind", are materialistic and superficial

Not to mention their perverse ideas of what actually constitutes freedom...

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yep and i could give a rats ass what they think. Complacent people who grew up being told they were the best at everything

Edit: To the deleted comment "someone sounds bitter"..... yes, exactly. I am bitter. What gives you the impression I'm trying to hide that? I'm disgusted by America. That's my point. Maybe that's why you deleted it?

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago

I'm working as hard as I can to undermine him, but I'm a disabled photographer five thousand kilometers away. What, exactly, am I supposed to do to fix this, that I'm not already doing? I'm too weak to use a gun, I'm shit at rallying forces, and besides, America is far too distributed to amass people at a single point. Even if I did somehow summon up the motor skills to outwit the Secret Service and be the best assassin in the world, I'd have to be okay with losing my wife and my friends, as I'm executed basically on the spot. I can't lose that. Trump will die before I do, and it will likely be by his own ragged mind.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

America is far too distributed to amass people at a single point.

Goddamm I need to get this phrase hotkeyed on my keyboard with how often I need to say it to people online who don't know how spread out the US is.

Our 5 largest cities have a nighttime pop of 1:20 of the total population. In Germany that figure is over 1:10 and in France and UK it's more like 1:5.

The largest city in the US is NYC with a nighttime population of 2.5% of the total US population, that same figure for France is 3.1% in Paris, in Germany, almost 1:20 Germans live in Berlin alone and in the UK 1:7.4 live in just London.

The US has a very small urban population for its size. This isn't to mention that the two largest cities are separated by a 2,000 mile desert and border two different oceans. The only way to congregate most Americans is through the Herculean task of mobilizing the suburbs, which has had some success (No Kings Day is the largest nonviolent protest in history), but is still much harder than rallying in more urbanocentric European countries.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago

I suspect that the relatively small size of European nations has made it much easier for them to have coherent protestors. The politicians have to be in physical proximity to their constituents, which puts their skin on the line if people snap. Getting enough angry people to surround bad leaders is a key ingredient to a healthy democracy.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

I'm working as hard as I can to undermine him.

Then you good.

Each according to thier ability.

The thing that drives the world nuts is when people in the US are like "not my responsibility".

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Crazy, considering the person who spurred on this whole thread was blanket assuming that everyone in the country is allowing this to happen.

How'd you manage to miss that and then write this comment?

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Haven't you heard? You have to say "I'm working as hard as I can to undermine him" in every thread you participate in, or else you're complicit with fascism. Those are the magic words. If you say them, you good (at least until the next conversation).

You might as well add it to your email signature just in case, so you won't be a target during "the revolution," as these people insist is actually going to happen.

In case you need it: /s

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yeah! I mean, not ALL men, right ladies?

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago

Appealing to a shitty argument to try to justify your shitty argument is a strategy. Let's see if it pays off for you

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago
[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

We're different people and I was offering another more understanding voice to the mix. You may notice my bar was actually just "anything more than just saying not my problem" which I actually thought was pretty generous and is wildly telling that even that was triggering to you.

What do you want? Me to do the sign of the cross and give a blanket absolution to all Americans on behalf of the rest of the world?

"Go, my children, your country may ravage the world I absolve you". In the name of the father the son nato UN and all humanity. I offer this to all citizens of the USA, Russia, and Israel as they decimate civilians in illegal wars. Would be kinda shitty of me to not hand it out to them too, right? I mean... what can they do about it? Not really THIER problem, right? We're all being a little judgemental by suggesting Russia get out of Ukraine or Israel out of Gaza, right? Let em in eurovision. Let em in the Olympics.

Not sure who I am to give it but if im giving that cool guy a break, I may as well give you one too, despite you being a total cunt. Not sure why you care (REALLY wish you'd introspect on that though, is it possible the uncomfort that makes you wanna lash out is that you know at some level you, as an american, are uniquely positioned to save the world like hollywood told you your whole life was your birthright, and instead you're on the internet mad at foreigners pointing out your country is mudering civilians? That discord must be HARD).

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

more understanding voice

By clearly demonstrating a lack of understanding. Great, I won't bother reading the rest of this.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Where are you from?

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

How very Canadian to think your shit doesn't stink.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago

On the contrary, that's just how an American who felt uneasy about their personal efforts would react to this.

To my recollection the leader of my country is not a literal con man, pedophile and blithering idiot but sure, bang your fists like a typical American and see how much it helps.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Right, must be convenient to make blanket generalizations about everything. Reminds me of a particular group... oh right! MAGAts. Imagine being so closely aligned with a group of malignant tumors.

You've earned your tag, good luck.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 hours ago

Meh, MAGA can't be that bad. They've literally hijacked your government and it's not really a big deal so.... guess it's not too bad to get lumped in with them right?

[-] Starik@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago
[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Uhhh there's a lot there, are you just saying it's all wrong? Do you want to share with the class?

Edit: They did not.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz -5 points 15 hours ago

Fuck off and learn how democracies work

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

Oh I'm sorry, is your working democracy in the room with us right now?

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 12 hours ago

You want to try to make explain how that connects to blaming everyone including the ones who voted against this, or are your mental gymnastics not that good?

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 hours ago

Sure I will make explain you good!

You didn't vote against this. You voted against Trump and a whole lot of things you worried might happen if he won.

You voted against him hoping that someone else would win.

They didn't, and now a whole lot of bad shit is happening now that wasn't on the table when you voted. Not as anything more than "maybe he'll do these bad things if he wins"

Your fucking vote doesn't buy you 4 years of "this isn't my problem I didn't ask for this". Who the fuck raised you all to feel this way?

Good for fucking you, you didn't vote for him. Good for you you went to a protest once or twice.

It is June 5, 2026. The president of the United States is a convicted felon, a confirmed rapist, pretty much a guaranteed pedophile, he has protected people who have done these things, he has a fucking fund for traitors to thank them for their efforts to destroy your democracy.

I feel like, and I know I'm not alone in this feeling as a non American, fucking Frank Grimes. Homer is Trump, Springfield is America. You're literally driving the rest of the world insane with your idiocy.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

You don't have to convince me that he's a piece of shit, I already agree with you there. Where you go wrong is by trying to insist that this is somehow my fault, as if I'm somehow personally to blame for this.

You don't know what goes through my mind on a typical day. The depression, the despair, the disillusionment, the frustration, the outrage, the indignation, or anything else. And I don't have to sit here and tell you about all that as if you're my therapist.

You don't know how I live my life, what I do to get by, to survive day-to-day. You don't know how or when or what I do to participate in the collective resistance, or what measures I have to take to protect myself while doing so. And I don't have to tell you about any of that.

I don't have to explain myself to you, and I don't have to justify myself to you. You're a prejudiced bigot, and I guess that's just the way you're gonna be.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 hours ago

You do share collective blame for this. Sorry pal. If you can't understand the difference between collective blame and me saying you, specifically, have failed, then I don't know what to tell you.

Climate change. I've done far more than my fair share vs my responsibility, but I still accept that I'm part of the failure that my kids have to live with.

I'm not sure why it's so hard for Americans to understand this. My best guess is the pure, mainlined indoctronation of individualism and exceptionalism that disgusts a good chunk of the world.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago

Just go fuck yourself. That's the only thing worth saying to you anymore.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago
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