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Do people realize you can go out and vote while recognizing the system is rigged? Like what do you lose from casting a vote?
I cant be smug on the internet.
I believe in you
Hours of your time in areas where voter suppression is in full swing.
That is where it is very worth the time!
Bring headphones and water
Yeah they really do make the effort to ensure you don't vote don't they? I wonder why?
My state expanded mail-in voting during the pandemic and it’s so nice to just fill out a ballot at home. The Republicans have been fighting against it and now I have to include a color photocopy of my ID with it due to their fuckery.
I'm probably not going to trust a mail in ballot this year.
Of course there's also danger if only magats use mail in voting, so there's a balance.
Everywhere I lived that had mail in voting had local ballot drop boxes and would update your ballot status the same day. You would get an email if it was accepted or not which was pretty cool. But I also haven’t lived in those crappy vOtEr iD 4 iTeGrItY states
So you're against tegridy, ey?
So nothing lose if it is worth it
I vote to show it doesn’t help and I haven’t been proven wrong.
But it doesn't hurt is my point
True, and my upside is being right so I keep voting.
If things change I might stop
If your vote starts making a difference you might stop voting?
Yeah it’ll take the fun out of it
Aight go off, monarch (idk your gender)
Haha same, if it worked then why do the parties I vote on always lose!?
Literally the only person who I voted for in a primary who won the general election was fucking Fetterman.
'Voting is so dumb. I cast a vote and the thing I wanted to happen didn't happen, that proves it does nothing! "
That's quite a take.
It's to most Lemmy ahh take imaginable.
"WAHH I'm a big smart special snowflake, why isn't my vote the only one that matters"
But what if the thing I want never happens?
Then you must vote every day!
It might not and you can choose to be defeatist about that but I'd rather keep trying, both by voting and by organizing within my community
If I had hope it would have been destroyed already.
Defeatism is the only thing that keeps me voting. (And my mom.)
hey hey hey...
you're only allowed to engage in ONE side of this argument..
And we wonder why people hate politics…
I just don't know what to do with the ABWD/ Blue MAGA/ Thirdway/ "Vote harder-er" crowd. Like, at no point are you allowed to recognize the fact that the system of elections and reforms is not-functioning: that voting has no practical impact on outcomes in US Democracy.
And there answer is always just some lazy version of pascals wager, but it totally fails to account for the other half of the equation, which is that there absolutely are negative consequences to giving your consent for nothing in return.
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If it makes you feel better he's at least 3% better the Dr. Oz would have been. What a fucked timeline.
So voting could only matter if yours is the deciding vote. Makes perfect sense.
Voting only matters if the guy I want wins. And even then only a little.
You realize that is terrible logic, right? That's literally just saying you should never have tried to do anything good unless it worked out the way you wanted in the end.
Our government is built on terrible logic. I’m just trying to adapt to it.
"Hey they were stupid first!"
They’re still stupid and it’s their stupid system with stupid rules I have to deal with.
If they stop being stupid I won’t have to be stupid.
I think your problem is you still take this clown show seriously.
If only it were only casting the vote. But people chose to do canvasing, helping in electoral campaigns and arguing online that's actually taking away the energy.
Vote, if you want. Pray, if you want. Curse capitalists, if you want. But don't expect it to change anything.
Voting doesn't have to include putting all your faith in the system is my point.
I'm not against it if you don't have faith in the system. I'm against the propaganda.
Totally fair! I'm not pretending voting works in a fascist system, but the numbers are more likely to make change at the lower levels of government, and there are many reasons (even statistics) that voting has a net positive effect rather than a net negative, even if the government will be corrupt either way.