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which really makes you wonder why people keep agreeing to them
I think it's in the vain hope that the world will speak up for them when (not if) Israel attacks them; unfortunately the countries with the greatest power to do something about it are just a basket of frothing racists who see the lives of the people in the global South only marginally more valuable than they did fifty years ago.
relying on 'the world' is a false hope, even the most sympathetic and reasonable nations like China won't lift a finger to do anything. Even if the entire UN was up in arms and voted against some action of Israel/USA they would simply veto it or ignore it. There is no diplomatic solution. The only economic solution is complete sanctions and embargo of US/Israel, which China refuses to do and nobody else is big enough to spearhead - so economic solutions are off the table. That leaves only military solutions, and nobody will help much with those either except in clandestine ways.
Thus, signing up for a ceasefire blocks off your side from military victory (thus any victory) while doing nothing to protect your people since Israel will ignore any ceasefire and keep attacking as much as they feel like. At this point, I'm starting to see any ceasefire with Israel as a tacit admission of surrender since the sides signing it surely know it won't be respected but have no other choice. Otherwise, why would they endure the bombings silently without reprisal?
Yet when any of this is pointed out in the newsmega you are labeled an idealist doooooomer who needs to be purged from the clique. Or at least that was the case a few weeks ago when I stopped trying to sift the good analysis (of which there was still plenty) from the non-materialist masturbatory "trust the plan, never question it" spam every other post. I'm assuming there hasn't been any improvement since then?
it's a mixed bag. Mostly it's touchy around current defeats, as people start blame-gaming and doing recriminations and infighting when stuff goes badly for our side, or just completely staying in denial of it. I think it's important to read the official positions and statements from resistance factions to get their side of the story and public intent, however they have been known to exaggerate, lie and mislead as well. Iran lied about not negotiating with Trump during the recent war, and they lied about not negotiating while Lebanon was being attacked. They agreed to a ceasefire while Lebanon is still being sieged when they explicitly said they would not do that, in fact they said they would not even begin talks while hot attacks on Lebanon were ongoing yet they not only did so, but agreed to a ceasefire with the strait still closed as some sort of compromise. I wish people could be honest about things like this instead of gaslighting us and pretending the resistance factions never made the statements that users here were gleefully parading around just days before the aboutface. Iran loves saying things about destroying the entity, freeing Palestine, etc and make huge statements to rile up their base and then they ceasefire out and try to sign sanction relief normalization deals with the west.