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My elementary school teacher told us once that Americans only poop once a week. The climate is colder in North America, so their intestines pack the poop together very densely such that they only need to poop once a week. She said you'd be sent to the doctor if you poop daily in America.

Is this true?

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[-] Krusty@quokk.au 8 points 20 hours ago

I have a friend that's a "fruitarian" (he's been convinced that humans are frugivores by the influencers.) He says he loves pooping, which he says he does about 6 movements a day.

I've tried to explain that we're omnivores and high fruit diets are clinically proven to not be healthy long-term... Dude is skin and bones (he's literally wasting) and won't listen. He'll eat some veggies, but only raw. He avoids anything cooked in anyway because 'cooking stuff creates toxins and causes disease/cancer and other animals don't cook their food.'

Nutritional science suggests 9-12 servings of fruits and vegetables daily, but the limit for fruit is 4-5 servings (while there's no drawback to additional vegetables, but it's also not significantly (statistically) healthier). Fructose does funny things to metabolism for reasons we don't fully understand (many claim it acts like a hormone), but the fiber seems to help, though. Juices should be highly limited and basically treated as refined sugar. Science also strongly suggests properly cooking foods....

Eating lots of(or exclusively) raw fruit will most likely result in poorly/partially digested diarrhea, roughly apple sauce consistency and generally still looks more like food than poo(which describes my fruitarian friend's BMs, which he doesn't find problematic, apparently he considers it a feature and not a bug -- short intestinal transit time is point of pride for him, for some reasons, basically... he thinks if his poop stays in him too long it becomes toxic, so he thinks a normal healthy stool is toxic).

Long term risks include severe nutrient deficiencies that may carry with them permanent physiological damage. Yet he still isn't convinced by the numerous clinical studies on this ... Then again, he also thinks WiFi is unhealthy for some asinine/dubious reasons so he turns off his router at night so it doesn't disturb his sleep (his roommates plug it right back in, lol.)

He used to eat normally and supported Bernie Sanders. Now he's technically a raw vegan(he calls himself/humans in general frugivores) and believes so much dumb shit(anti vac, no longer respects trans pronouns, etc), and obviously he started supporting MAGA/Trump, so we don't talk much anymore.

The problem with realizing that you have cognitive impairments is that you have cognitive impairments. It's a vicious cycle I've sadly seen in multiple raw vegans. The longer they do it, the crazier(delusional, disordered) they get. Like my fruitarian friend doing weeks long water fasts as well.... He looks like someone with severe anorexia/bulimia. But oh boy does he pack it in! And within hours it's squirting out the other end. He's one of those people that don't fully close the bathroom door. So everyone can hear the squirts and splashes! Still less annoying than being lectured to about eating healthy by someone as clueless as they are confident.... Plus his 'shit' doesn't really stink, as it's not digested. Another point of pride for him.

We've evolved to eat cooked food. Please cook your vegetables, people. Salads are fine but most of our veggies will be very much more digestible and nutritious after being cooked! Some ruffage/raw plants are beneficial, though. Other animals need to chew chud basically all day to meet basic nutritional needs from vegetation. We have cooking, and it's awesome.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 12 hours ago

Frutarian should not only be eating culinary high sugar fruits. Gourds, tomatoes, etc are all fair game. Anything where you technically do not need to kill the plant to get the food should be on it so nuts to. I would argue milk and eggs should be on it but most people keep it to just plants. Kinda funny because with milk and eggs it would not be hard to keep it relatively healthy.

[-] Krusty@quokk.au 2 points 6 hours ago

He seemed to like fruit the riper it got. His favorite bananas would be brown and mush (he called it 'like candy, so good.'). I tried it. Tasted funky and fermented, like ethanol(and other fuesal alcohols). I think he might have been getting lowkey drunk/buzzed off overly ripe fermented fruit, which would definitely provoke some mad squirts.

But then again this guy didn't believe in germ theory. I showed him microscopic media of bacteria and viruses and fungi, even white blood cells doing what they do best (seek and destroy invaders!) He claimed it was all fake news/CGI/AI... We even made kombucha (I taught him how.) Which he enjoyed.... Which I guess it's just magic to him and not basic fermentation....

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

yeah he does not even understand the moral basis of the diet that I think kinda came from jains.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

I used to work in a health food store and remember I could always tell who the raw foods guys were (it was always guys) because they had crazy eyes. They were crazy.

I'm sure most of us could stand to eat more raw foods, but dude. That fruitarian thing makes zero sense. It's people who think bodies are dirty, they want to transcend this filthy mortal plane and be clean and pure. That whole mindset is so twisted.

[-] subignition@fedia.io 1 points 5 hours ago

I mean, there's a lot of ways bodies are dirty, but that just means you have to recognize the reasonable limits to cleanliness and learn to deal with what remains. ("shit happens", after all)

As someone who struggled a lot with black-and-white thinking when I was younger, I can definitely see how someone could develop some warped views in the absence of decent education / role models.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Sure, but being physically embodied is not some unclean state, and those ideas have some pretty dark roots. Purity as a concept is such bullshit. There were also the colonics people, who got these crazy enemas and tried to get their insides clean. I'm sure they are dead now, that's just not how bodies work. We need all that gross stuff inside us to be healthy!

[-] subignition@fedia.io 5 points 19 hours ago

That was a wild read, I'm sorry you're dealing with that

[-] Krusty@quokk.au 2 points 16 hours ago

We used to be room mates years ago. He(his dad) owned the house, but he was basically the property manager (we paid rent to him and his dad let him keep the money.) We (other room mates) didn't really care for the guy(he didn't really work, besides the occasional side hustle, like doordash). His brother also lived there and didn't work or pay rent. His brother was fairly normal, albeit a gamer addict(slept during day, gamed all night, likely to maximally avoid the fruitarian). We both liked to cook, so we bonded over that. It was weird because he'd project his mental illness onto his brother and suggest his bro needs professional help. And of course this wasn't unique to his brother. Then I would suggest something like, "you act like your brother sometimes have you ever considered professional help," he would go full denial mode.

If he managed to have a poop that would stink then he would then water fast. He'd fast for so long eventually black tarry stool happens. Influencers teach dumdums this is proof your body is detoxing ... In reality it's basically just your stomach digesting itself, and it smells extremely foul. And it's medically concerning.... But to dumdums that's success I guess?

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Tell your friend that animals do get cancer.

Some are just immune to it.

Apparently elephants have some sort of preventative gene to it. I think there’s also a whale and mole rat that do not develop cancer.

these animals have a variety of diets which have nothing to do with it. their immunity is due to genes or an ability to shut down tumours. (They can still get cancer but it just doesn’t do anything to them as it can’t metastasize)

Humans do not have the same properties.

So sick of the health food nuts that think food = hormone replacement or whatever suits their opinion at the moment and do fuck all research into how DNA works.

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 0 points 18 hours ago

wow, your friend is a heavyweight, figuratively speaking. Not to give water to his mill, but I have a family friend who is actually disturbed by wifi. She is able to tell when it's on, we blind tested her. She would always turn it off at night when sleeping over.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I’d be interested in more scientific tests on this as I think some people do have a sensitivity to it.(not me personally) but I think It should be researched more about the effects of the signals on the human body if they can feel it. I wouldn’t dismiss it as silly as way back when Bluetooth had levels developed after it could produce tumours and they had to reduce the signal a lot for current day use.

Used to be able to have Bluetooth that could work past two blocks. Turns out that was NOT good for the body.

[-] Krusty@quokk.au 2 points 16 hours ago

Used to be able to have Bluetooth that could work past two blocks. Turns out thaf was NOT good for the body.

Class 1 Bluetooth devices can reach around 100 meters under ideal unobstructed line-of-sight.

There's no scientific study to suggest Bluetooth radio frequencies are harmful. They're very low power and it's non-ionizing radiation.

Smoking(Polonium and lead, and thousands of carcinogens), UV exposure(sun), radon exposure(usually in homes), and air pollution are all significantly more dangerous than radio frequencies.

Radio frequencies can absolutely microwave (heat) you under specific circumstances. Like at AM/FM and DTV antenna power levels, sure, but only if you're climbing one of the towers, then sure they can cook you inside-out(with many megawatts of RF energy)... But by the time it gets to even 1 km the power is so low it's harmless(about a million times weaker than just one meter away, so 1 km away a 1 megawatt antenna would have only 1 watt of energy). Bluetooth class 1 devices top out at 100 milliwatts and consumer-grade WiFi tops out at 1 watt. It would kind of like being afraid of a full moon giving you a sunburn.... It's just not going to happen.

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