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So you favor dumb people over competent people?
Sounds about right for the average hiring manager. People don't care about your organization. The incredibly inefficient system of capitalism they were born into requires them to exchange the unrenewable resource that is their time, the only thing they have in this universe, for arbitrarily valued currency which changes value constantly through no action they make, so they get the privilege of continuing to exchange their time for more of this currency, until their flesh suit is too broken to continue this exchange.
No one has ever been excited about working for your company. A few learned to fake it. A few simply aren't capable of complex thought and treat working for your company the same way they'd treat a colonoscopy or birthday party because they literally can't tell the difference.
Lemmy ahh comment.
Feel free to go back to reddit, where you 'people' belong.
It sounds to me like you have never worked some place exciting. You should give it a try. I was and am very excited about the work I do and for whom I do it.
Me too but it's easier to find what they're talking about and really hard to find what you're talking about, and even harder to get hired. And 10x harder to know what you're getting into before your first month in the job, so this answer is the most appropriate during the interview.
Yeah, that is why I was looking for a job for a year and a half before I landed this gig. I was ruthlessly picky. I am a damn good integration engineer/engineering technologist, and I asked a ton of questions in the three interviews I had in my search. I looked almost every day, applied to maybe 5 jobs, and attended 3 interviews. One job, I was a poor fit for them. One job they were a poor fit for me. The third job was a great fit on both ends, which was awesome because I had wanted to work there for years, but they never had a position open.
Ask. Lots. Of. Questions. Don't just let them interview you, you both need to interview each other. you both have to live with each other.
If you think your only value as a human being is your capacity to produce, then I don't know what to say to you?
Yes, capitalism sucks, but also, humans aren't all just out here blindly doing capitalism and not thinking about anything else. Every person working a job has to interact with coworkers, and those interactions are not mediated solely through a lens of productivity.
I said the opposite, actually, the problem is your work is your entire life. Jobs are there to enable you to live life. They are not your life. They are not what you do, they are the necessary component that allows you to do what you want to do because we live in a world that does not value human life.
I agree with that. What makes you assume my work is my entire life? I only work 4 days, and I have a solid community outside work and various hobbies.
Crazy you get to hire people only working 4 days a week.
Why do you have that authority?
Why are you only willing to give 4 days a week of your time to your glorious employer.
Are you not serious about your goals with that company?
I .. honestly have no idea how to tell how serious or sarcastic those questions are...
Sounds like you are not qualified to interview people for jobs.
I've done it for 4 different organisations now, so I guess not 🤷
No. See, most people ARE just blindly doing capitalism because it's either that or die.
Listen to me very closely: Nobody gives a single flying fuck about your mission statement. Turning away more qualified candidates because you didn't feel they were as interested in the company culture as others makes you a shitty hiring manager. Nobody gives a shit about the company culture. Every employee with two brain cells knows it's about money, period. When times get hard, the company will not care how much you mesh with the culture, they will drop you like a hot turd if you aren't producing enough or are costing them money. So why pretend anything else matters?
Mate I've got to spend 40 hours a week with these people. I would much rather hire someone who is socially competent but needs to learn a few things technically than hire an asshole who is just going to be a pain in the ass.
Honestly if you view every interaction through a strictly transactional lens you're not gonna have a good time being a human. Most of our lives are spent doing things we don't really want to be doing, be that work or cleaning or building/repairing shelter, etc. The thing is, most people find ways to find some joy or comradery in these tasks. If your only goal is to complete each of them as quickly as possible you're gonna spend most of your life being fucking miserable.
But getting back on track - not every company is built the way you describe. Personally, I've been able to build a team at my company where everyone gets their work done, enjoys each other's company, and goes home after 40 hours. If I hire people who don't get along with everyone else I lose that balance. So I hire people that fit the culture, and teach them the skills they need technically. The offices with a bunch of individualistic assholes tend to work longer hours, have poorer quality, and higher turnover rates. And they are all fucking miserable. Personally that is not something I'm interested in.
Because working with people you like makes work so much more bearable? We have an AP lady who is a hotshot, does such a good job but so mean and hotheaded and thinks she is "honest" but is really just mean. Hates her husband , hates people, only likes her dog. Her manager is on her last straw because she criticizes everyone else all the time and dislikes half the people she works with, and she (the manager) has had to referee arguments she has with the rest of the staff.
You can train someone to do a job, it's much harder to train someone out of being an asshole.
Just because you don't care doesn't mean there aren't people who do care.
Also, not every company is a corporate hell hole.
The votes on your comment are enough to tell that your blanket "Nobody" is not a valid statement. It's generally a smart idea to accept that there are diverse perspectives that exist, and not everyone who disagrees with you is wrong.
Is that question at the end of your comment actually curiousity, or just a boring rhetorical?