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This dude has got to be trolling otherwise he needs to be put in a mental institution.
Carp, Thiel, Musk, Vance and a bunch of these douchebag technofascists subscribe to this really nonsensical philosophy called “dark enlightenment “ it’s basically just the feudal system with mass surveillance and AI to enforce it. They openly advocate for the dismantling of democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
basically china
Except China does it to drive national interest, the above forementioned people do it for personal wealth or power growth
Thats meaningless, Carp, thiel and musk could say the exact same thing
But they're capitalists and beholden to shareholders and profits? They're not the same. I don't condone China's actions around privacy and control. But I also think it's erroneous to compare them to China.
How is it not a fair comparison? They want to remove all minorities - China removed/is removing ~8 different ethnic minorities, they want a surveillance state with total control - China has a surveillance state with total control, they want a full censored media - china has a fully censored media. The other things is they're willing to do whatever it takes to reach that goal just like china. All their end goals are basically a powerful group of unelected people ruling over everyone with total control. The cope they all tell themselves(including china) is that they'll be benevolent. I'm sick of seeing people hand wave all this just because they built a train and some houses(btw a lot of houses in china are shit, they're tiny and fall apart and the ones you actually want are still unaffordable).
Also corporations can operate however they want and that its just an overused meme to cite Dodge v. Ford as forcing them to maximize shareholder value.
"Worst than Hitler because he cared about Germany or something"
Well china has lifted 800 million people out of poverty and these men want to force most of us into poverty or worse because they’re literally fascists
So the ends justify the means? If that's the case then you basically agreed with these evil cunts because they claim their goals are for the good of people. They are dumb but they aren't describing a dystopia any more than China is a dystopia.
Personally i wouldn't go down the chinese route and kill 100 million people just to have the dogshit human rights, labour rights and environmental regulations and go from 50c to $1.20 a day.
I don't think anyone is spuiking how fantastic china is. They have serious flaws, but they have also had huge improvements in quality of life, poverty, engineering etc. Just to be clear also, China has taken such a staunch stance in nationalism since the bullfuckery of England, America and Japan.
Then why make the defense? Why jump in and "um actually this dictatorship was pretty good" if you arent trying to spuiking how fantastic china is. China doesnt have anything that other successful democracies dont have. As it stands China has done far worse than Carp, Thiel, Musk, Vance
I never said the dictatorship was good. Its not accurate to compare a capitalists who are purely for self enrichment to a country that is lifting people out of poverty. They're not the same.
Capitalism and capitalists were a major factor in lifting those people out of poverty by the way. credit markets, FDI, private firms, and export growth were all a reform away from communism towards capitalism and western style market economies. Its also lifted people out of poverty all around the world.
I dont like either of these side these people exist to seize power and maintain absolute control over people. They are both terrible which is why im comparing them and not trying to say one of them is actually good/not bad.
All I have to say is CCP propaganda really got people good. yall see a high speed train and a meh healthcare policy and are immediately ready to throw away your freedoms and morals. You're from Aus you have it better than China, you're richer, have better housing, better healthcare, better social security, better quality of life. All without needing to put all your trust and future in a Authoritarian leader. You have Albo, id kill to have Albo as PM.
DHS has literally said they plan to get rid of 100 million people. Stephen miller has talked about it and project 2025 has too.
Ok but you'd be ok with that since the ends justify the means to you.
Dude seriously American capitalism has killed way more than 100 million. Your Chinese strawman isn’t an effective argument. Especially when we’re constantly starting wars all over the world and literally bankrolling a genocide.
America has killed 100 million people thats crazy how did they do that?
https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/mapping-us-imperialism
Iraq 500,000 (lowball)), 3 million civilians Vietnam, Korea 4 million, slavery , Native American genocide 13 million (lowball), institutional poverty, installing dictators, corporate puppet governments and destabilizing governments in Central America institutional violence, planting crack in black neighborhoods, COINTELPRO https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/mapping-us-imperialism
China invests in infrastructure these tech douchebags are welfare queens extorting the American taxpayer to the detriment of our infrastructure. China has universal healthcare. China has affordable housing and affordable food. These techdouchebags don’t want to invest in any of that they want a permanent slave class and the pedophile oligarch class. China literally executes people like this. What we are facing is much much worse and American capitalism has killed well over 100 million people
I think what these men want is much worse
He’s really unwell. His view of the world is a clear and present danger to it.
Yeah this guy seems like a delusional nut job.
Part of it is to get into the media.