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I, for one, would like to thank the Republicans and Trump.
Theyre setting all kinds of precedents that will be used against them full throttle the moment theyre no longer in power. Truly a gift.
Hah good one
I’d like you to meet the Democratic Party. They’ve said they appreciate your enthusiasm, but they’re going to “take the high road” and hope that they can just leave things as they are and pray things don’t get even worse when they lose next time.
Dont worry, when SCOTUS overturns Loving vs Virginia, dems will stand on the Capitol steps and sing kumbaya and ask us to all come together
I'm hopeful there may even be republican dissent for all the overstepping. I think there are still plenty of traditional, small government types who are looking out for number one by faking support while privately being under duress.
If that's true, it may embolden the equally cowardly dems to finally take appropriate action. One can hope, anyway.
Ever the optimist. Republicans grumble about other Republicans, they don't do anything about them. Republicans don't have principles, they have talking points and disdain for their neighbours. They don't have morals, they have self-righteousness.
Keep dreaming, first you would need a Democrat with a spine. Then you would need a Democrat house and senate that wouldn't care about Republican feelings. Not happening
Who said anything about democrats?
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ain't gone happen.
LOL, yeah, right.
Assuming Democrats take power of every branch of government. They absolutely will not do anything like this against even the most vile of Republicans spreading hateful speech, up to and including those that engage in stochastic terrorism.
Exactly. This dumbfuck nation keeps giving only a modicum of power to the Democrats anyway. And even if they do get a majority, good luck on trying to overturn something like the now-very-much-abused presidential pardons...
Democrats are going to honor pardon abuse even if it makes zero fucking sense. If they were anything like Republicans, they would have the perps arrested ANYWAY and then let it wind its way through the courts much later. When it comes to people like the J6 terrorists, they should absolutely do this, by the way.
Good luck on getting the Democrats to do anything about pardon abuse.
Good luck to get them to do anything.
They always forget that their weapons are two edged swords that can be wielded against them, too.
Except they don't know how to wield them in the first place. They just thrash around.
LOL oh my sweet summer child... your naivete thinking they will ever give up power is so sweet
The paranoia is cute and all, little one. But I prefer not to live like the world is crashing down when its entirely out of my control.
So you prefer to put your head in the sand? good for you... no wonder your country is crumbling around you
PS: it really cannot be "paranoia" when you are admitting it is actually happening but you think it's out of your control...
I'll just add to this thread: Being naive is a problem, sure. But dooming and refusing to be optimistic about the possibilities for the future plays into fascists' hands, because we limit our imagination to whatever worst-case we expect, growing resigned in advance to their moves.
The only way out of this is to keep demanding a fair and just world - including through our expectations - while also preparing for the other side to do everything possible to derail it.
You have a point regarding mindset, but I would encourage people to stop hoping for change. Be the change you are hoping for - help each other to survive in a world where we can't rely on goverment support.
Start mutual aid networks, reach out to peers and strangers alike, share resources/skills/knowledge, learn how to set up mesh networks/use amateur radio gear for communication, build sustainable shops where actual useful stuff is produced, etc.
Have plans for how to reach your community quickly in different kind of emergencies.
Look at how organizations in countries that are further ahead when it comes to living under fascist rule have survived and built their networks. You're not alone, people have had to deal with and live under way way worse conditions than you and got stories/strategies to tell.
I'm not saying you need to build some kind of militia or go off grid. But this kind of infrastructure can be used regardless of how the future pans out where you live. It can be used right now, by and for those that lack the resources that others have, and has been left out in the cold by their government.
Best case scenario: Politics change to the better and you now have a strong, well-organized community that can put pressure on local politicians to keep it that way.
Worst case scenario: Regardless of politics, you and others have the means to keep on living through your community, and the amount of leverage the fascists have on your community has been reduced.
My head in the sand? I just dont subscribe to the constant perception, on both sides, that the other side is the end of democracy as we know it.
Do I think Trump would like that if he could do it? Absolutely. Do I think that will be the outcome? No, I dont.
The fear mongering ad nauseum is what got us Trump to begin with. Republicans constantly being fed this idea the Democrats are the end of democracy, and if you disagree you're just a RINO, led us down this path. People who parrot the same on the left are just as bad.
If people are convinced their vote doesnt matter, they wont vote and youre feeding that.
But hey Im just being pragmatic about the state of things and whats within my capacity to control. Fuck me, right?
"Both sides" 🤡🤡🤡
Yes, saying "I prefer not to live like the world is crashing down when its entirely out of my control." clearly implies you rather ignore the stuff you know is happening but you feel it's out of your control
Ok, being positive is definitely not a bad thing... but then I need to ask, how do you expect the outcome to be any different?
Hmmm no, the absolute inability for Americans to defend their own rights and even just vote got your trump and continues to allow him to do as he pleases
I am actually pushing the other way... for action not inaction... my original post refers to the constant reply I get from americans saying "we are not there yet" and thus they will do nothing but wait and see
Well, while you are being pragmatic the global economy is in shambles, thousands of people (many many children and women) are being slaughtered and democracy is being eroded, all directly linked to the actions taken by your country.
But who cares about those people, right?! I mean, you seem to be OK for now so that is really all that matters.
You're right, it is all that matters to me. I simply do not care what is happening on the other side of the globe.
I disagree with it, but I certainly am not going to hang my emotions on it. If I worried myself over what 8 billion other people are going through id never get any sleep
Good for you to be honest... but just remember this when something is happening to you and nobody runs to help you
I wish