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[–] 48 points 4 months ago (20 children)

Remember reading Pinochet did this too

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  • [–] 56 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    I've read about it enough times being used by right wing regimes or paramilitary death squad in south America during the 70s and 80s enough to be pretty sure it comes from a CIA handbook.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    MKUltra used traumatizing people as a method of mind control. Imagine this happening to you, deliberately. It's like reading the Epstein Files. It shook me to know this kind of Babylonian Moloch worship rituals could even exist in the real world. I hate to use an analogy like red pill but it's just like The Matrix, reality is worse than we ever imagined.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Nothing in the Epstein files even remotely surprised me, just confirmed strong allegations that I had already believed to be true. I was a precocious teen in the mid 2000s and was into parapolitics after being confused about how invading Afghanistan tied into 9/11 at all. So ive been deeply cynical since age 13 or so. The depravity is the point into itself and they will never understand that's why theyre doing it and not cause it works. We have seen time and time again being this disgusting makes people disgusted. This are depraved and disgusting perverse acts. But they dont work, they dont terrify people into complying they make people hate them more and justifiably so. No one wants to be governed by sadistic perverted butchers.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    There are things in those files that the Romans destroyed Carthage for. I always wondered by Carthago delenda est was a slogan but we know now. Someone bothered to actually go out there and look and sure enough, there were buried mass (I can't say here but it's what you think it is.) Carefully placed in ritual positions, not just thrown into a pit like Babi Yar.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Are you saying Carthage had dirt on Rome that even Romans would cop to? Cause Roman society openly celebrated that kind of slaughter anyway. The romans sucked and they were bragging about it all the time.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (10 children)

    They kept slaves (the kind without safe words) and the fact that even they were offended by Carthage's practices enough to destroy them speaks volumes. Hans, are we the baddies?

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    The thing Romans were offended by is that Carthage was their primary competitor. Everything else was just trying to justify it.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    They said the Carthaginians sacrificed babies to Moloch, which everyone assumed was a lie. A year or two ago someone bothered to actually dig, and lo and behold, baby skulls tacked up in neat rows.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Given the insane level of infant mortality in that age, it is much more probable that they died of natural causes.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Infant mortality is one thing but removing the heads of infants and putting them in vessels stacked neatly in rows?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    It doesn't prove sacrifice. People all around the world often had weird funeral practices.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    What a weird thing to cast doubt on. Moloch is the god of child sacrifice.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Moloch is the god of child sacrifice.

    I assume you have a decent source for this, and are not just taking the bible (which advocates the destruction of moloch worshippers down to the last child) or Roman sources (who regarded Carthage as their greatest enemy) at face value, given that this sort of thing is an extremely common form of atrocity propaganda in all eras we have knowledge of including up to the present day. Otherwise, well, I'm sure you can find remains that support the claims of conquistadors that Aztecs sold human flesh in their markets or American claims of millions of dead Uyghurs. To my knowledge we don't even have particularly good proof that there even was a god called "moloch", a quick browse says that many modern scholars think the word may have referred to the sacrifice itself, and not a figure of worship.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Moloch (spelled differently) was the god of rain in the Levant. He demanded child sacrifice to ensure adequate rain. I never knew about this stuff until the Epstein Files came out and they were doing all this fucked-up shit on that island which matched up with the occult, and I don't mean Alestair Crowley. All I knew was that nethack had an altar of Moloch and if you messed with it you got hit by disintegration rays.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    So did the Toybox killer. I listened to that "orientation" recording he made and regret it. It's bone-chilling.

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  • [+] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    A recording he made to introduce new captives to what was going to happen to them. It's online if you look for it, or a transcript. Probably the audio was taken down long ago. I don't recommend it. This was from the pre-censorship era of the internet, when Reddit was the free speech wing of the free speech party.

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