I am going to preface this by saying that this is not a dispute with a moderator. I am not asking for my post to be undeleted. I will write the post from the perspective that Hexbear moderators are correct.
I am writing this post for clarification on rules of future posts.
I like to post news stories which are published by DPRK public news agencies ie DPRK state-owned media, usually KCNA. I started doing this because I saw many misinformation posts about DPRK, whether good or bad. Many of the misinformation posts about DPRK cited DPRK public news and misinterpreted the article. So I figure, I should just start posting DPRK public news directly to demystify people's ideas of DPRK.
Examples of misinformation about DPRK:
- Anti-DPRK sites which may be secretly funded by US government, such as DailyNK and NKNEWS. These sites make up bullshit about DPRK and are considered legimate by western media because their sole purpose is making bullshit.
- Some western media articles, such as published by Fox News or BBC. These articles will typically cite the Anti-DPRK sites or misinterpret information published by real DPRK sites.
- Screenshots of twitter posts with uncited sources: "Kim Jong Un said DPRK executed 2 israelis" (fake), "Kim Jong said Netanyahu is bad" (kinda real, DPRK has hated Israel since at least the 1980s), "Kim Jong Un said US is a cancer-like entity" (real quote from a much longer speech)
- Collections of images of DPRK posted without context. There are many twitter posters who seem to get images from KCNA articles and then remove the watermark and post the images without the article, so that they can take credit for the images which were published by DPRK media.
I think that News Agencies inside of DPRK are a much more reliable source of information about DPRK than outside sources. Yet, I never see other users posting links to the News Agencies that are actually inside DPRK. Other users tend post things from the other 4 categories which I mentioned.
Do hexbear users believe that DPRK is a reliable source of information about DPRK or not? Are they afraid to visit DPRK-hosted website? Do they not know that DPRK has internet and websites? Are the DPRK-hosted websites blocked in your country?
Again, I'm not disputing any decision of Hexbear mods. I'm not asking for the post to be undeleted. I want clarification for future posts, which I'm sure would also be helpful to other users.
Yesterday I posted an article from DPRK-owned media with 2 photos by DPRK government and 1 photo by the Russian government. My post was removed because Hexbear believes that the photo which was provided by DPRK government is AI-generated.
The photo which is suspected of being AI-generated was broadcast on DPRK National Television (KCTV), published in WPK's official newspaper (digital & physical) (Rodong Sinmun), and published on DPRK's publical owned news agency (KCNA).
The reason given for the photo being suspected of being AI is that it looks weird. I can't disagree with that. Many photos that come out of DPRK look weird, even before generative-AI was a norm. DPRK just looks weird in general which I ascribe to culture shock.
Hexbear removed the post, saying that the DPRK government used AI to generate the image. This means that DPRK government published an AI-generated image in a physical newspaper and broadcast it on National Television.
exhibit 0) My post which was removed for containing a photo produced by DPRK
https://hexbear.net/post/8321242
exhibit 1) Photo published on KCNA, DPRK's nationally-owned news agency.
https://archive.is/xepRu
exhibit 2) Photo published on Rodong Sinmun, DPRK WPK's official newspaper.
https://archive.is/uvSei
exhibit 3) Photo broadcast on KCTV, DPRK's national television channel. Screenshot 1 shows the image plainly. Screenshot 2 & 3 shows the image as part of a newspaper, which I would guess to be Rodong Sinmun.
video (timestamp 13:15 and 25:30) https://kcnawatch.org/kctv-archive/69ea2614e62a8/
screenshot 1) https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/553ce8ba-c7fb-4529-8687-129dd84cc347.png
screenshot 2) https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/bf839602-ef40-466d-ab59-13943b6ea932.png
screenshot 3) https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/c2becb72-b6b0-4085-b4ab-0a512296911b.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Central_News_Agency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodong_Sinmun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Central_Television
Here's my concern, AI-generated does not mean "looks weird". AI-generated means that the image was not produced with a physical camera. AI-generated images could look totally normally, just as photos made with a camera could look weird.
My post was removed. I am being told that I broke a rule by posting an image that was created by the DPRK government and seemingly reported by DPRK as being a legitimate image.
Now I have to be concerned about whether photos posted by DPRK government are considered to be legimate by Hexbear, which seems to be the greater authority on what actually happens in DPRK.
For clarification on my future posts, I need to have some questions answered.
- Does Hexbear consider DPRK to be a reliable source of information?
- Will my posts in the future be removed for containing images published by DPRK government?
- If Hexbear considers images which look weird to be AI-generated. How do we know that images that don't look weird are not AI-generated?
- Will Hexbear users face consequences for posting information provided by DPRK government because it looks weird?
These questions could also apply to other governments.
Yeah, that was what I was implying, which continues into the rest of my comment.
Again, high speed rails. It wouldn't hit the same is not a legitimate reason, that's a skill issue.
Absolute
shit. You can excuse all the genocide minerals and existing data centers that have been making people's lives hell for decades to partake in this digital hellscape we call the internet but you're gonna draw the line at a massive force multiplier? And I mean ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE, they're pumping out a Lego video almost every 24 hours now, I think? Deeply unserious. 
Again, skill issue. Which is not gonna be overcome by sticking our heads in the sand.
Blah, neither is hexbear a good take on leftists. I live in a red state, I'm surrounded by libs and Nazis
, they don't give a shit about AI.
You have completely ceded to the techbro view of the world, that social media is the defactor mediator for social interaction, even in meatspace, and is where social/political influence is. But that then makes you wonder how people were able to socialize and carry out politics before social media, even in my lifetime.
Right wing AI slop gets engagement because the platforms are designed to do that. Engagement sounds like a really cool thing. We want people to be engaged in the socialist project. But it's a misnomer because it's not engagement in practical activity, in the Marxist sense. It's a simulation. It's voting, subscribing, views, clicks, replies. To a techbro those are the metrics of social interaction. They have that view because it makes them money. The platforms they created to privatize social interaction rely on those metrics. That doesn't mean that you, as a Marxist or normal human being have to accept those terms. In order for them to maintain control they have to convince people that their version of engagement is real and important and at the center of human nature itself. Hence why they push it as social media, as some cultural aspect of human nature where we come together and communicate. It's so ingrained at this point that it actually now mediates meatspace interaction as well. The current regime now carries out political action in response to online grudges. They do this because they have financial and social ties to the owners of public discourse and the owners need to make it all the more real by creating legal consequences that they control.
The answer here isn't to beat them at their own game. It's not to make our own social media where we get to be mods and admin and updoot our own AI memes and do raids like we're 14 year olds from 2005. The answer is to get people to stop using these platforms. Get people to log off except for vital communication, because the internet as a steadfast and long-distance means of communication is genuinely good. The more people log off and re-establish meatspace social ties, the more social media will be seen as weird and off putting. These sites will implode and it won't matter who owns the AI slop machines because it would be like owning a machine that produces noxious farts while everyone enjoys fresh air. The trick they're trying to pull right now is to get everyone to accept AI as the defacto means of producing content, as if nobody could ever create anything without it. Part of that is also creating fomo (which you are here demonstrating) and treating it like some kind of political necessity. If you put your political ambitions towards getting people to log off, you don't have to worry about the AI meme arms race.
"But what if people will never log off" Then we all die. It's the same answer as if people can never be organized. Do you really think it's just some "capitalist realism" thing where logging off is impossible? It's kind of self-fulfilling right? If you just assume you can't pursuede people to log off, and people don't, you lose social interactions in meatspace, which forces you to rely on social media more, which makes alienation worse. It's got to break somewhere. Might as well start with getting people offline. If capital is completely invested in turning me into a pod person, I should probably try to resist that somewhat rather than accept it and consider doing everything from inside a pod.
Lead the way, comrade who just made a shitload of assumptions.
How is AI a force multplier? Because they can pump out more memes per day using it? Relying on bullshit AI slop for memes is a skill issue. Just using the internet is not the same impact as generating things with AI. You admit you live in a red state where people don't care, where I'm at plenty of people do hate AI. What is the connection to the high speed rail argument?
Really? How long do you think it would take you to get to the level where you can pump out a 3 minute Lego Music Video in 24 hours? And do it for weeks straight? Plus, iirc, it's a group of like 3 people doing it.
Go google coltan mines. That's an amuse bouche. This whole thing is built on slavery and burning down the environment. Why y'all suddenly give a shit now I have no idea. I mean I do, but.
The comment you originally replied to, yo?