793
Garden of gethsemane
(thelemmy.club)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 11 Apr 2026
793 points (98.7% liked)
memes
20860 readers
2788 users here now
Community rules
1. Be civil
No trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour
2. No politics
This is non-politics community. For political memes please go to !politicalmemes@lemmy.world
3. No recent reposts
Check for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month
4. No bots
No bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins
5. No Spam/Ads/AI Slop
No advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live. We also consider AI slop to be spam in this community and is subject to removal.
A collection of some classic Lemmy memes for your enjoyment
Sister communities
- !tenforward@lemmy.world : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts
- !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.
- !linuxmemes@lemmy.world : Linux themed memes
- !comicstrips@lemmy.world : for those who love comic stories.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
To add to this, the most closely related passage in the bible is in Genesis 38, where this guy Onan was ordered to have children with his brother's widow so the child could inherit his brother's estate.
This seems to me a bit outside your usual family obligations, and so did the guy because while he engaged in sexual intercourse, he "spilled his seed" on the ground to avoid fulfilling this familial duty.
God didn't think much of that and killed him on the spot.
The tale is usually linked more to the "sin" of contraception, but it seems like a much more pragmatic story: it's best you knock up your brother's widow than have everyone start a war over the spoils.
And the Lord sayeth, "creampie your sister-in-law or I'll fucking kill you."
Tamar is an interesting character in her own right, and worthy of being named.
After this, she’s supposed to marry Judah’s (Onna’s dad’s) third son, but considering he just lost two, he doesn’t want it to go through. He sends her home to her parents and blows her off when she asks when the marriage is going to happen. (The Bible has a lot of verses about leaving parts of your field unharvested for widows. Not having a husband = hellish poverty.)
She eventually gets fed up with this, disguises herself as a temple prostitute, Judah shows up, has sex with her, and gives her a family emblem as an IOU.
Later, she ends up pregnant, so the village elders drag her before Judah for punishment (he’s her father-in-law still technically.) They are going to put her to death, and Judah asks her who knocked her up. She produces his family emblem, and he has to be “well, you got me, I guess I have to take care of you.
Ok that's one fucked up family. Out of all of them, god only saw fit to smite one of them? Sheesh.
Two of them. The older brother had been killed by god for being “wicked.”
Fun fact: In the Indigenous Australian society I'm most familiar with, if you're a man and your brother dies, his wife is now your wife, and you have his familial obligations. This is to ensure that his family will be cared for.
It was actually the law to do that, IIRC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yibbum
Well the article says that
So, permitted and encouraged, but not forced into it. Except by god it seems.
I always read it as being about defying the law (backed by divine enforcement):
His father commanded him to "... fulfill [his] duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for [his] brother", which implies that this was considered a legitimate obligation. His transgression, then, was that he pulled out "to keep from providing offspring for his brother", actively refusing to fulfill that obligation. In that reading, it's a tale about obeying the orders and customs of your elders.
Of course, these don't have to be exclusive: "These norms exist for a reason, so you should damn well obey them."