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[–] FishFace@piefed.social -2 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Do you think your uncle was in any way representative of the millions of people employed in waste disposal? The city of Birmingham's bins have gone partially uncollected for over a year due to a dispute over pay. If waste disposal workers were, in general, doing it for the love of it, they'd surely be happy to do it for minimum wage.

Seems more likely your uncle was the odd one out, and most people need to be paid to do stinky work.

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[–] Micromot@piefed.social 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I think that mostly happens because it's a hard job and because people need money to live. If they didn't they wouldn't need more pay

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If it's so enjoyable, why don't they do it as a hobby and have a different paying job?

To be clear, I think the answer is obviously that, to most people, it's not that enjoyable.

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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Because, I don't know if you're noticed, having a paying job is exhausting. The world setup in such a way that for a normal person, getting money means someone will suck every bit of life of you.
That's, pardon the not nice metaphor, the difference between night of passionate sex and selling your ass so your pimp doesn't beat you up. Both activities can be reduced to physical aspects, but not a lot of people will ask why one is desirable and the other is less so.

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 point 6 months ago

Because, I don’t know if you’re noticed, having a paying job is exhausting. The world setup in such a way that for a normal person, getting money means someone will suck every bit of life of you.

Yet most people have hobbies. So what you're saying is that working as a garbage disposal person is not enjoyable enough to generally make people want to do it every day alongside having a regular job. They'd rather play video games, or write a Lemmy frontend, or something else that's more fulfilling and doesn't stink.

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[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

The pay argument is cause it wasn't enough to cover necessities. If necessities were 100% covered then there's no need to argue over pay.

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you agree most people need to be paid to do work, then we have no disagreement on the topic at hand, so there is no need to argue at all.

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[+] waddle_dee@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago

I don't believe I did. I was always talking about whether it was necessary to offer incentives to do jobs like waste collection or if they'd be done anyway in an ideal society.